The new iMac graphics cards / an iMac without a screen

Discussion in 'iMac' started by toonshorty, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. toonshorty macrumors member

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    Well on the iMac thread I saw that the top iMac would feature a 9400m + 9800m. While that would be super great apple could just throw in something better.

    Asus have just released a laptop, yes laptop with a quad core mobile CPU and an ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2

    Yes, the second best graphics card available for gaming, now maybe that could go in the top iMac as an upgrade but if not why not the HD 4850 or HD 4870. I mean, if ASUS can put it in a laptop you must be able to put it in a desktop, even if it does get fatter, you don't see it so we won't care!

    ATI said that a mac with an HD 4850 / 4870 would be coming "soon", but I can't seem to find any mac with those cards in using the 'what we already know' threads.

    Another thing apple need to do is to stop using mobile parts in a desktop machine or atleast make a mac pro but without the pro. So a mac that sits between a mac mini and a mac pro, an iMac with no screen. So like a normal PC, and then give us options to customise it well. Upgrade CPU, RAM, Graphics.

    If apple made that I would buy it 1000 times over. (well ok maybe 1000 - 999 but that's not important)

    It's always something that's been missing, mac mini = too underpowered and mac pro = too expensive and not everyone wants a work station with 20 hard drives.

    Thanks for reading,

    ~ Toonshorty

    (PS: Tell me if this is the wrong section but I figured there was no other section for posts like this)
     
  2. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    One word: Heat.

    Another word: No xMac while Steve is still alive.
     
  3. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    xMac?

    What's that? (Sorry I'm new to all this mac stuff)

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    Edit: And of course heat is going to be a problem, but how did ASUS manage to make a notebook with an X2 inside without causing it's cheap plastic casing to melt?

    It's also quite cold in Britain so free heating from a PC would be quite nice.
     
  4. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    The headless iMac you're talking about.
     
  5. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    Ah, why does SJ hate it so much. I would have though it would be the big seller if they released it. I would die for an xMac!
     
  6. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    History lesson: The original Macintosh 128k was an all-in-one design because Steve Jobs didn't want the "end-user to mess with his hardware".

    Fast forward to 1996: iMac.

    Integration of hardware and software has always been Apple's prerogative, and because ATI and nVidia refuse to make EFI drivers, we can't get any more graphics cards than what are commissioned to be supported by OS X.
     
  7. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    Well then that's just silly..

    Oh well, daydream over... :(
     
  8. Hellhammer Moderator

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    And every updated Mac has nVidia GPU. Macs never meant to be gaming computers, they were made for graphic designers etc. (at least most of the commercial companys uses Macs nowadays)

    8800GS which is used in current models is enough for gaming, it runs all games. If you want monstergaming Mac, build/buy a PC and turn it to a Hackintosh

    And for the xMac thing, we'll not see that for years.
     
  9. Annngel macrumors regular

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    Let's compile all this up into a proposal and send it to Apple Inc.
     
  10. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Yes, because even though they haven't listened to the xMac crowd for the past five years, a proposal will change their minds. :(

    Apple. Doesn't. Care.

    They don't cater to the "mainstream" market because they have the iMac there.

    "Oh, well, then I just won't buy a Mac!" "But the iMac isn't a desktop!"

    They don't care. They make about a billion dollars profit every quarter, so they don't have to listen to the minority.
     
  11. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    Well snow leopard is using OpenCL (or is it OpenGL)... whichever.

    So surely a better graphics card is a better system speed and also for the few games I do play on my PC I would like to be able to play with as little lag as possible so perhaps an nVidia GTX295m, well ok... maybe not that far but a 9800m at least please!
     
  12. Annngel macrumors regular

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    Besides, isn't the all in one factor nicer looking comparing to the bulky system tower.
     
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    Much better looking. And it's more portable than tower.
     
  14. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    Yes, it's much nicer but it means apple have to use expensive mobile parts, it would be so much cheaper because they could have desktop parts.

    Look at it this way:

    iMac 2.66GHz
    24" LCD Display
    2GB Memory
    ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO
    320GB Hard Drive

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    £929

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    Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.66GHz
    Samsung SM2433BW 24" LCD
    Corsair 2GB (800MHz)
    HiS ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO
    Samsung 320GB Hard Drive

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    £439

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    And there we have it... Apple make £490 per iMac. Would you pay £490 for some slightly better looks?

    Ooops, I got a slightly bigger screen in their too, so they make even more!
     
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    High-end mobile parts are way more expensive than mid desktop parts. You can't compare 'em. If you are not happy for iMac don't buy it. xMac won't happen.

    I also thought that I could build a monster quad-core gaming PC for same money as iMac, but I want OS X, not Windows and Hackintosh is quite annoying to update etc.
     
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    Samsung SM2433BW is a TN panel while the panel used in the 24" iMac is H-IPS, which is far more expensive and vastly superior. You'd need to do an :apple: to :apple: comparison.
     
  17. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    That's the exact reason I'm getting an iMac.

    I'm just suggesting that apple could save almost £500 by using desktop parts instead of mobile parts.

    If the screen has to get fatter then so be it, we don't see that part anyway.

    Then again... just update iMac soon please apple, mobile or desktop parts :(
     
  18. MattZani macrumors 68030

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    Case?
    PSU?
    Optical Drive?
    Bluetooth?
    WiFi?
    MotherBoard?
    Case?
    Keyboard?
    Mouse?

    You have missed alot of things from your home built 'iMac'
     
  19. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Yes, especially since that price is only for a pile of non-working components that don't even have a case.
     
  20. Hellhammer Moderator

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    Yea, processor and GPU isn't everything :D

    for toonshorty:

    Do you want that new iMac would look like iMac G3? Big and ugly? I wouldn't buy that.
     
  21. toonshorty thread starter macrumors member

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    Oh my good! Take it away... PLEASE!

    Ok, I take back every single post in this thread!!!

    Although an xMac would be Epic Win
     
  22. Hellhammer Moderator

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    It would be really cool
     
  23. Annngel macrumors regular

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    YES!

    That's my only reason for choosing a mac machine.
     
  24. wisty macrumors regular

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    They could just resurrect the cube. I thought it was one of Steve's favorites?

    By could, I don't mean that I'd expect it ;), Apple don't like to lose focus, and takes pride in their spartan product line. Who else boasts about scrapping products?
     
  25. Drumerdude macrumors member

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    i've never heard the heard of the xmac befor. What does it look like?
     

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