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very interesting article ..
https://theoutline.com/post/2402/the-new-macbook-keyboard-is-ruining-my-life


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"All of the keys work, for now. But as I write this a shaft of sunlight is falling across the right side of the keyboard from the window behind it, catching on a half-dozen or so pieces of dust."

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm thoroughly bored of reading your Uber-negative posts regarding your MacBook Pro experience. We get it. You had issues. Lots of people have issues with their computers everyday but don't spend their life on the internet linking people to the same thread over and over again.

Yes, there is certainly issues with some 2017 and 2016 MBPs. But Apple sold 4 million Macs in the last quarter. 16 million Macs a year approx. There is every chance that people can have a good experience too.
 
All laptop keyboard suck, even the 2013 rMBP one. This is very subjective. I absolutely cannot stand the Surface Pro cover keyboard, but I know plenty that prefer that to even USB keyboards.

I cannot use anything other than a mechanical keyboard.

If this is "ruining your life", then get a different computer. How is this so difficult for people lately?
 
Someone seriously needs to go to therapy. We get that you've had a bad experience, we get it, we really do. Not quite sure how a keyboard can 'ruin your life', that's one heck of an over-exaggerating problem there.

I once had a bad MSI computer, I solved this by never buying an MSI laptop again. Seemed easier than endlessly posting on their forums about how bad they were.
 
I once had a bad MSI computer, I solved this by never buying an MSI laptop again. Seemed easier than endlessly posting on their forums about how bad they were.
If you have an MSI go bad, you can buy a Dell, Lenovo, Alienware, Acer, HP...

If you have an Apple go bad, you can't buy another Mac :(
 
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All laptop keyboard suck, even the 2013 rMBP one. This is very subjective. I absolutely cannot stand the Surface Pro cover keyboard, but I know plenty that prefer that to even USB keyboards.

I cannot use anything other than a mechanical keyboard.

If this is "ruining your life", then get a different computer. How is this so difficult for people lately?

Out of curiosity what makes it so hard for you to use other keyboards that are not mechanical? I find it interesting as I can't say I've ever really had a problem jumping between different types of keyboards.
 
Out of curiosity what makes it so hard for you to use other keyboards that are not mechanical? I find it interesting as I can't say I've ever really had a problem jumping between different types of keyboards.

I just find the keys a lot more difficult to press without a mechanical keyboard. My typing is so much faster with a mechanical keyboard than with any other I have tried.
 
I just find the keys a lot more difficult to press without a mechanical keyboard. My typing is so much faster with a mechanical keyboard than with any other I have tried.

I'm still very much a newb to mechanical keyboards, but I find there is something about them that is just pleasing to me in a way that I can't quite describe.. Mainly I'm using a remapped Corsair with Cherry MX Browns (which based on what I've read seems to be a middle-of-the-road model) and am currently seeking a Model M or an Apple Extended.

I definitely type faster, I definitely make fewer mistakes, and I definitely correct mistakes faster. I can't explain why this is, but I feel like my thought process is even better when typing on a mechanical keyboard. It might be the feedback, the travel, the sound, or possibly just something in my head.
 
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Well, if your livelihood revolves around typing, then it could have a massive effect on your productivity; depending on how comfortable you are with the newer MacBook Pro's keyboard. I personally am not a fan of the newer generation; I personally have not tested a 2017 update to confirm if the butterfly keys are much better, but my last experience at the Apple store left me unimpressed. That said, I am not in the market for a new Mac, my 2015 is doing well and will serve me for a good while.

Its just that, I can understand liking the thinness and power, but you are not able to fully enjoy it because two of the most critical components: the keyboard and whale of a trackpad keeps getting in the way.

Wouldn't be surprised if Apple makes a u-turn maybe to a thicker chassis similar to 2015 to accommodate a keyboard thats more like the way things were. I can understand the USB-C strategy (even though that has its own bag of hurt), but the keyboard is crucial.
 
I think her main issue is simply with the reliability and the headache that has caused, not necessarily the keyboard itself when it's working as intended, no?
 
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