You cannot count phone apps. So, Web os, playbook and android are in the same position. Although, android does have an advantage of followers from the phone market. So, does blackberry, but they are defecting, though.
The new number 2. Who will be the second most significant player in the tablet market
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You cannot count phone apps. So, Web os, playbook and android are in the same position. Although, android does have an advantage of followers from the phone market. So, does blackberry, but they are defecting, though.
robanga
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My guess is #2 will be have a thin slice of share.
Watch the claimed sales vs. sell through ( units in store warehouses vs in the hands of users...ahem Samsung). I am thinking less than 2-3 million units a year. 10-15% share at most
....and my Guess is that will be ....HP and their WebOS wonder. Hey at least they will basically own the ecosystem. It will still be a profitable business for them.
Watch the claimed sales vs. sell through ( units in store warehouses vs in the hands of users...ahem Samsung). I am thinking less than 2-3 million units a year. 10-15% share at most
....and my Guess is that will be ....HP and their WebOS wonder. Hey at least they will basically own the ecosystem. It will still be a profitable business for them.
PhoenixMac
macrumors 65816
I like how people compare android to iPhone that logic is akin to iOS to htc evo it's a phone to operating system. While android has become a player to iOS I think there are more iPhones sold compared to a single phone running android e.g. Htc desire someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
So I think apple will remain on top of sales with the iPad I do not believe the xoom or galaxy tabs will compare in sales at all.
So I think apple will remain on top of sales with the iPad I do not believe the xoom or galaxy tabs will compare in sales at all.
Too soon for me to predict which single product will sell the most, but I think it's safe to assume the Android tablets will win out over WebOS and RIM. They have the ecosystem to support what people want. (WebOS and RIM are too narrow in community and focus.)
You have to keep in mind Apple products primarily sell to Mac users and they are a small amount of the entire computing market. As far as consumer electronics go, Apple has done an amazing job marketing the one off items such as iPods to non Mac users. The most notable thing about the iPhone was the launch of an integrated App Store allowing people to use their smartphones for more than what came in factory defaults. Something that was quickly adopted by the nearest smartphone competitors with Android taking the lead. But the iPhone itself commands little marketshare because it has always been limited to one carrier in the US. It sells better overseas where GSM is the standard and carrier competition is at play.
Android has gotten marketshare because it competes in more cellular markets. Ironically this also hampered tablet sales because of Google's dependence on cellular company distribution.
The race to dominate the tablet market will be won or lost in the non-3g WiFi models. Those that are carrier agnostic and can be sold as netbook alternatives.
Now Apple had the secret sauce last year in offering their iPads direct to consumers the way they do the iPod line. A schnazzy consumer electronic that could be used by the entire computing audience. The WiFi version continues to outsell its 3g counterparts. I also give them credit for selling the 3g models without long term cellular contracts. This is where Samsung failed with the initial Galaxy Tab launch.
But you have everyone and their brother backing Android now. The Android tabs are all meeting Apple prices AND offer the same or better specs. There are a lot of reasons for non-Mac users to jump on those models.
Probably the most fascinating question is whether the tablet market eventually kills the smartphone market. After using a tablet it is very difficult to go back to the tiny screens of a smartphone.
I think iPad will continue to sell well into the summer, but by Christmas we'll be seeing a shift to Android. Motorola has a good product with the Xoom, but Samsung is more seasoned in this game.
It's a good ol' fashioned Mac vs PC war from the 80's/90's. Apple products will retain that niche "experience" ecosphere that comes from a closed system while Android will triumph with several good manufacturing partners.
You have to keep in mind Apple products primarily sell to Mac users and they are a small amount of the entire computing market. As far as consumer electronics go, Apple has done an amazing job marketing the one off items such as iPods to non Mac users. The most notable thing about the iPhone was the launch of an integrated App Store allowing people to use their smartphones for more than what came in factory defaults. Something that was quickly adopted by the nearest smartphone competitors with Android taking the lead. But the iPhone itself commands little marketshare because it has always been limited to one carrier in the US. It sells better overseas where GSM is the standard and carrier competition is at play.
Android has gotten marketshare because it competes in more cellular markets. Ironically this also hampered tablet sales because of Google's dependence on cellular company distribution.
The race to dominate the tablet market will be won or lost in the non-3g WiFi models. Those that are carrier agnostic and can be sold as netbook alternatives.
Now Apple had the secret sauce last year in offering their iPads direct to consumers the way they do the iPod line. A schnazzy consumer electronic that could be used by the entire computing audience. The WiFi version continues to outsell its 3g counterparts. I also give them credit for selling the 3g models without long term cellular contracts. This is where Samsung failed with the initial Galaxy Tab launch.
But you have everyone and their brother backing Android now. The Android tabs are all meeting Apple prices AND offer the same or better specs. There are a lot of reasons for non-Mac users to jump on those models.
Probably the most fascinating question is whether the tablet market eventually kills the smartphone market. After using a tablet it is very difficult to go back to the tiny screens of a smartphone.
I think iPad will continue to sell well into the summer, but by Christmas we'll be seeing a shift to Android. Motorola has a good product with the Xoom, but Samsung is more seasoned in this game.
It's a good ol' fashioned Mac vs PC war from the 80's/90's. Apple products will retain that niche "experience" ecosphere that comes from a closed system while Android will triumph with several good manufacturing partners.
spinedoc77
macrumors G4
Oh I understand what your discussion is about, it just seems too narrow of a discussion. I do agree with your point that none of the very few choices on your poll will surpass apple this year, although samsung with their in house manufacturing and very fast response to the ipad2 probably have the best shot IMO. If you are comparing os to os I think android vs iOS is a much more reasonable comparison, especially since the hardware is converging into very similar specs on both sides.