Yuck! Both the Mini and that Optiplex things are UGLY! I can't understand how it is the PC world, even when they have something beautiful to copy their design from, can really make a PC look like crap. 
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The New PC Mini!
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In a way this could be good - spur Apple to continually update and innovate their mini - it may help it evolve faster.
you guys can't be serious? what's the 'innovation' in the mini, other than the packaging? apple simply took the guts of a laptop, stacked the HD and optical drive, and left out the display, keyboard, and battery. sure the packaging and the marketing is clever, but it's hardly 'innovative.'
the cube--now that was a real piece of engineering, as is the new G5 imac. apple put in a top-of-the-line desktop processor into a passively cooled small form factor. that was an ambitious design. ok, so maybe it was too ambitious and consequently too pricey.
the mini has a lot of potential, but it's still a work in progress, imo. apple has yet to add any new functionality to the design to make it integrate better with the home which i think is its real future.
the cube--now that was a real piece of engineering, as is the new G5 imac. apple put in a top-of-the-line desktop processor into a passively cooled small form factor. that was an ambitious design. ok, so maybe it was too ambitious and consequently too pricey.
the mini has a lot of potential, but it's still a work in progress, imo. apple has yet to add any new functionality to the design to make it integrate better with the home which i think is its real future.
I don't think that we are touting the 'innovation' of the design of the mac mini. Just the blatant rip off the external design. Potentially this can cause "consumer confustion" resulting in loss of profits for Apple. Small potential but it is there. Remember when the original iMac came out and eMachines (I think) made carbon copies of it?
Plus the addition of the 'racing stripes' is just... gaaa at a loss for words.
That thing is nasty!
My grandmother has one of those Dell Optiplex thingys.
I'm no PC basher (nor fan), but that thing is the biggest piece of crap I've ever witnessed. Windows runs decently on it, but some piece of hardware is always failing. I think it has a 2.something P4, I can't really remember. It's slow and spyware ridden, despite the poor thing having every anti-virus/spyware software known to man installed, and running.
I'm going to get her set up with a Mini, so she can see what all the fuss is about. She's very stylish, I know she'll dig the look.
My grandmother has one of those Dell Optiplex thingys.
I'm no PC basher (nor fan), but that thing is the biggest piece of crap I've ever witnessed. Windows runs decently on it, but some piece of hardware is always failing. I think it has a 2.something P4, I can't really remember. It's slow and spyware ridden, despite the poor thing having every anti-virus/spyware software known to man installed, and running.
I'm going to get her set up with a Mini, so she can see what all the fuss is about. She's very stylish, I know she'll dig the look.
angelneo said:
There's a HP laptop that allows this - http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...otebooks/hp_pavilion&storeName=computer_store
"Get to the good stuff fast
Bypass the standard Windows boot-up process with HP's exclusive QuickPlay software, which is installed on every dv1000! Go straight to watching a movie or playing music at the touch of a button."
relimw said:Cool, now I can have my computer flash 12:00 like my vcr
This is just plain laughable, and goes to show that the M$/Intel world can't think for itself anymore.
Worst, it even shows they can't even keep a sense of style when copying something that's already stylish...
Typical PC thinking... "Hey let's make a small PC". Only thinking about specs... The moron who decided to put those "lines" in it should be ashamed of himself (herself?).
At least, the Cubit looks different.
brap said:
Dude, stripes won't make it go faster. Didn't you know you needed speed holes for that?
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Homer: "Hey, what are all these holes?" (points at bullet holes in car hood)
Car salesmen: "These are speed holes. They make the car go faster."
Homer (impressed): "Oh yeah, speed holes."
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So, what the PC world needs is a Mac mini casing with holes in it. Like a PowerMac, I guess.
dongmin said:
The style is extremely clean for such a small computer. Also, SFF PCs are usually a lot bigger (though there's computers smaller than the Mac mini). However, all those other small PCs are a lot more expensive than the Mac mini. But yes, aside from the nice design and the "let's put a headless iBook into a box" idea, the Mac mini is nothing new. Except the price, being a "new low" for Apple.
dongmin said:
But isn't the Mac mini FASTER than the Cube? And yet it's still smaller than the cube (is it?).
dongmin said:
Aside from selling it with wireless capabilities (already available as options) and adding a TV-out (also available as an optionnal adapter), it's only missing PVR capabilities and a DVD burner (again, available as an option).
PVR, however, gets complicated when you take digital cable into account (isn't there many standards actually in use?).
Rip-off today, ubiquitous tomorrow. The mini Mac is the shape of things to come, or at least the size of things to come. Pretty soon companies will also be offering mini-rack servers, etc
It doesnt look like a rip-off to me, derivative perhaps. It does look similar, but given the dimensions what other shape could it be? A truly cool design would have been to just make the thing a seamless aluminum box, and I am sure some case company has done that.
[EDIT] I don't see why anybody is pissed. It doesnt take away from Apple's market share, and a WinTel machine is a WinTel machine. All the same complaints will be made of the micro-pc that are being made of the mini-Mac: Not internally expandable, poor speed, lack of user serviceable parts, poor video processing compared to bigger machines, reduced useful lifespan, etc...
[EDIT] I don't see why anybody is pissed. It doesnt take away from Apple's market share, and a WinTel machine is a WinTel machine. All the same complaints will be made of the micro-pc that are being made of the mini-Mac: Not internally expandable, poor speed, lack of user serviceable parts, poor video processing compared to bigger machines, reduced useful lifespan, etc...
hmm I wonder what cpu would be used in this. I'm thinking some pentium m probably. Is that is then there will be great processing power in it.
brap said:
I've seen racing stripes in, uh, undergarments as well. Didn't make them faster but they smelled quite a bit more.
Yvan256 said:You mean... You shutdown your computer when you don't use it? How about letting it fold instead?
Or put it to sleep if you don't want it to fold (but why not fold?). Sleep mode means that I am in OS X and can play that CD faster than those HPs can play their CDs without Windows.
Why do a lot of these threads seem to turn into arguments?
Intel Mini... ugh... cheap POS rip-off... you can't defend it as being a concept, it's just a rip-off!!
Hob
Intel Mini... ugh... cheap POS rip-off... you can't defend it as being a concept, it's just a rip-off!!
Hob
dongmin said:
Wow just brilliant.
Wouldn't that hold true for any computer, since they are pretty much made the same one way or another.
dukeblue91 said:You are kidding right ?
no it makes sence to tell you the truth. The confence where intel shows products is much later than MWSF so this project could of been done months ago to even back as far as MWSF and they where just waiting for the confrence for them selves to show it off.