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the new silly: upvoting "downvote" posts

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mdelvecchio

mdelvecchio

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ok if anyone needs proof that removing the downvoting while leaving upvoting is absurd, note this new trend -- someone will post a "downvote!" comment, which is then up-voted by 50 people.

....really? can we not admit that is insane, and not insanely great?

it's decreasing the signal:noise ratio, and thus the usefulnesss, of this site.
 
squeeks said:
Just put the down vote back. Removing it is censoring. Censoring is bad.
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unlinked said:
I have not seen the posts in question but they don't sound off topic to me.
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From the rules:

Useless and one-word posts. Do not bother making posts with only one or two words (e.g., "cool" or LOL) or a smilie, or post simply to have the first reply in a thread. Such posts waste everyone's time and will be deleted. Posts saying "I agree", "+1", "this", "me too", or the equivalent are also routinely removed, so don't post them. If you aren't interested in a thread, skip the thread; don't post to tell us you aren't interested. If you celebrate making the first post in a news thread, your post will be deleted.
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If "downvote" is all you have to say, then don't bother making the post because it's useless. If you disagree with someone, then please explain why instead of just saying so. Without knowing your reasoning behind the disagreement, it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion.
 
squeeks said:
Just put the down vote back. Removing it is censoring. Censoring is bad.
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The discussions are much better WITHOUT the downvoting button. We have really enough negative things in this world. If you need a downvoting button, you do not know the real world.

Do you have a downvoting button in discussions in RL? I doubt that.

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squeeks said:
Just put the down vote back. Removing it is censoring. Censoring is bad.
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MR deleted probably 2 or 3 of my posts in more than 2 years. You call this censoring?

*ROTFLMAO*
 
hfuhruhurr said:
Yes, it's called disagreeing with someone.
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In real life you don't just have an anonymous disagree button. More often than not when you disagree with someone you explain why. The same goes here. River that, or keeping your opinions to yourself.
 
Removing the downvote button helps avoid posts that go like this "y u downvoat mi pst, tis wes goode". That's why. People will learn in due time to not just post "downvote".
 
I don't even who thought the upvoting system was good to start with? This isn't reddit or digg.
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
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MR deleted probably 2 or 3 of my posts in more than 2 years. You call this censoring?

*ROTFLMAO*
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What are yopu talking about?? I said nothing about deleting posts, but allowing only one type of vote is no different than a retail site only posting positive reviews about products they sell. The downvote is a good way of letting people know you disagree rather than fill up the thread with useless posts.
 
squeeks said:
What are yopu talking about?? I said nothing about deleting posts, but allowing only one type of vote is no different than a retail site only posting positive reviews about products they sell. The downvote is a good way of letting people know you disagree rather than fill up the thread with useless posts.
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You can still disagree and state why in a post.

Your analogy doesn't really work - you can still leave a "negative review," but you can't just leave a review that only states "this sucks."
 
I also think that the removal of the down voting is healthy for the discussion culture. it force the people to speak up or shut up and not just anonymous shooting from the back.
 
Mostly I used downvoting in response to what I felt to be erroneous upvotes. I miss that....
 
Hellhammer said:
If "downvote" is all you have to say, then don't bother making the post because it's useless. If you disagree with someone, then please explain why instead of just saying so
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note the complete lack of upvotes to this sentiment, compared to the upvotes to "bring back downvote" and "remove all voting" posts. my advice: listen to your users instead of trying to re-program them.

Without knowing your reasoning behind the disagreement, it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion.
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sorry, but this isnt the Nobel Peace Price forum. its a tech rumors site -- most of what goes on here is not complex discussion. and thats fine. really. because, many, *many* times the reason for the downvote is obvious and requires no further signal-to-noise degradation. thats what youre overlooking.

listen to your users.
 
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Queso said:
A much better idea is to also remove the upvoting button.
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Though I felt odd about upvoting this post afterwards, I have to agree. There's a few forums out there I visit where there is only an upvote button, and it works quite nicely. But it feels like the populace of MR just can't deal with the fact that upvote buttons are good for replacing posts with "I agree" as the only content, while downvoting simply isn't useful. If you disagree, explaining why is usually not frowned upon, and actually I would hope is encouraged.
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
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Do you have a downvoting button in discussions in RL? I doubt that....
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The 'real life' downvote:

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I fail to see why the down votes were removed. How else can we target ggjstudios?
 
As with the other downvoting threads, this one is re-hashing the same arguments and with the other threads, arn has made it clear the downvote removal is an experiment.
 
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