the new silly: upvoting "downvote" posts

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  1. mdelvecchio macrumors 68040

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    ok if anyone needs proof that removing the downvoting while leaving upvoting is absurd, note this new trend -- someone will post a "downvote!" comment, which is then up-voted by 50 people.

    ....really? can we not admit that is insane, and not insanely great?

    it's decreasing the signal:noise ratio, and thus the usefulnesss, of this site.
     
  2. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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  3. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    Just put the down vote back. Removing it is censoring. Censoring is bad.
     
  4. unlinked macrumors 6502a

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    I have not seen the posts in question but they don't sound off topic to me.
     
  5. Hellhammer Moderator

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    From the rules:

    If "downvote" is all you have to say, then don't bother making the post because it's useless. If you disagree with someone, then please explain why instead of just saying so. Without knowing your reasoning behind the disagreement, it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion.
     
  6. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

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    The discussions are much better WITHOUT the downvoting button. We have really enough negative things in this world. If you need a downvoting button, you do not know the real world.

    Do you have a downvoting button in discussions in RL? I doubt that.

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    MR deleted probably 2 or 3 of my posts in more than 2 years. You call this censoring?

    *ROTFLMAO*
     
  7. hfuhruhurr macrumors newbie

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    Yes, it's called disagreeing with someone.
     
  8. stridemat Moderator

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    In real life you don't just have an anonymous disagree button. More often than not when you disagree with someone you explain why. The same goes here. River that, or keeping your opinions to yourself.
     
  9. macingman macrumors 68020

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    Removing the downvote button helps avoid posts that go like this "y u downvoat mi pst, tis wes goode". That's why. People will learn in due time to not just post "downvote".
     
  10. Renzatic Suspended

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    A real life example would be some guy screaming "NEGATIVE ONE" every time you say something he doesn't agree with.

    That'd get annoying real fast.
     
  11. Queso macrumors G4

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    A much better idea is to also remove the upvoting button.
     
  12. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Yep. Remove the voting entirely. It's pretty clear this does nothing but cause more complaining.
     
  13. mabaker macrumors 65816

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    I don't even who thought the upvoting system was good to start with? This isn't reddit or digg.
     
  14. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    What are yopu talking about?? I said nothing about deleting posts, but allowing only one type of vote is no different than a retail site only posting positive reviews about products they sell. The downvote is a good way of letting people know you disagree rather than fill up the thread with useless posts.
     
  15. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    You can still disagree and state why in a post.

    Your analogy doesn't really work - you can still leave a "negative review," but you can't just leave a review that only states "this sucks."
     
  16. ChristianJapan macrumors 601

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    I also think that the removal of the down voting is healthy for the discussion culture. it force the people to speak up or shut up and not just anonymous shooting from the back.
     
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    Mostly I used downvoting in response to what I felt to be erroneous upvotes. I miss that....
     
  19. whooleytoo macrumors 603

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    You could always reply to correct any mistaken logic, or explain why your opinion differs. That way, you're also contributing something useful to the thread.
     
  20. mdelvecchio, Jul 27, 2012
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    note the complete lack of upvotes to this sentiment, compared to the upvotes to "bring back downvote" and "remove all voting" posts. my advice: listen to your users instead of trying to re-program them.

    sorry, but this isnt the Nobel Peace Price forum. its a tech rumors site -- most of what goes on here is not complex discussion. and thats fine. really. because, many, *many* times the reason for the downvote is obvious and requires no further signal-to-noise degradation. thats what youre overlooking.

    listen to your users.
     
  21. SkyBell macrumors 604

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    Though I felt odd about upvoting this post afterwards, I have to agree. There's a few forums out there I visit where there is only an upvote button, and it works quite nicely. But it feels like the populace of MR just can't deal with the fact that upvote buttons are good for replacing posts with "I agree" as the only content, while downvoting simply isn't useful. If you disagree, explaining why is usually not frowned upon, and actually I would hope is encouraged.
     
  22. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    The 'real life' downvote:

    [​IMG]
     
  23. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    I fail to see why the down votes were removed. How else can we target ggjstudios?
     
  24. RKO macrumors 6502

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    By starting numerous random threads titled "Does my Mac have a virus?"
     
  25. maflynn Moderator

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    As with the other downvoting threads, this one is re-hashing the same arguments and with the other threads, arn has made it clear the downvote removal is an experiment.
     
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