The New Star Trek Movie At Midnight.

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by rm2092, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. rm2092 macrumors 6502


    Mar 30, 2008
    Ok I love the Star Trek movies and the new movies comes out on Dvd tonight at Best Buy at midnight tonight, why should I not buy it from Itunes wich is offered in HD ?
  2. dmm219 macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2008
    I'm not sure why you are asking this question in this forum.

    The couple of reasons I can think of:

    1. While HD, its not BR
    2. Its not physical, so you can't let a friend borrow it.
    3. If its not itunes extras, you miss the extra content on the DVD.

    Itunes extras, by the way, are great. Apple should have been selling movies this way the whole time...
  3. jaw04005 macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    Why not?

    1. There’s no guarantee that Apple will post it to iTunes Store at midnight.
    2. You prefer physical discs (Blu-ray or DVD).
    3. You prefer 1080p quality with 7.1 sound at an awesome bit rate (Blu-ray).
    4. You’re a bargain shopper and realize you can get the Blu-ray, a standard DVD and an iPhone “Digital Copy” version for the same price ($19.99) at Amazon as downloading it in HD off the iTunes Store.
    5. You want every “extra" available on the DVD/Blu-ray discs. (Although film does have iTunes Extras, I don’t believe it’s every extra that’s included on the disc. At least, it wasn’t that way for Wall-E.)

    Reason to Buy?

    1. You require instant gratification (provided Apple manages to post it at midnight tonight otherwise you might as well go purchase it at retail if you want it tonight.)
    2. You hate physical media.
    3. You consider 720p at 2000-5000 kbit/s “good enough.” (May even be lower than that, not exactly sure.)
    4. You live solely in the iTunes eco-system.

    Obviously, it’s a personal choice. I tend to stick with the Blu-ray simply because it’s the same price.
  4. rogervzv macrumors member


    Aug 18, 2009
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Actually, the above sounds exactly like me! :D
  5. Scarpad macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2005
    I live in the Apple Ecosystem and I would consider buying HD films on Itunes if the prices were better. Blu ray is receiving huge price slashed not that they are trying to jack up sales. Both Walmart and Amazon have great prices, Star Trek was $19.96 and Terminator Salvation is upcoming for under $16 bucks !. If Itunes offered the HD at $14.95 or less I'd consider getting the film from them. But to be the same price as the blu ray is insane. Same thing with the bond movies recently released on Itunes, $19.95, I've seen the Blu rays cheaper. Come on studios I can acept 720p at a decreased price.
  6. Rooskibar03 macrumors 65816


    Feb 5, 2007
    State of Denial
    I actually got the email it was available for download last night at 8pm MST.
  7. nutmac macrumors 68040

    Mar 30, 2004
    Arstechnica's feature on this topic, Star Trek comes with iTunes-exclusive extras, but bilks fans.

    Both include digital copy of the film, which can be transferred into your iTunes. Digital Copy is DVD-quality, a file measuring 1.96GB that can be synced to 5 iPhones/iPods/AppleTVs/computers, at 640x352, 2 Mbps H.264 and Dolby 5.1-channel, chapter marks.
  8. Winni macrumors 68040


    Oct 15, 2008
    Because iTunes is evil, and it's evil because DRM is evil, and DRM is evil because it DEPRIVES you of your rights - and doesn't grant you rights, as the name falsely implies. DRM is all about restrictions. You should not support it by spending your money on DRMed products. Having said that, you should also not spend your money on BluRay discs for the same reasons. DVDs are at least "only" copy protected, but do not have an additional DRM layer like BluRays.
  9. nutmac macrumors 68040

    Mar 30, 2004
    You don't quite seem to know what DRM is. At its worst, DRM ties the contents to limited number of playback devices. This is what iTunes FairPlay does.

    On Blu-Ray, AACS DRM does not restrict the playback to limited number of playback devices. To the end user, it's really not much different from DVD's CSS protection. AACS does make it more difficult to rip contents (although very possible in most cases) with "features" like image constraint token, watermark, and managed copy.
  10. rm2092 thread starter macrumors 6502


    Mar 30, 2008
    Well I did buy the movie from Itunes and I know its only in 720 HD but really it looks great to me, I guess I'm done buying anymore dvd's for now, I can live with the 720.
  11. Scarpad macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2005
    If you don't own a blu ray and don't intend to buy one then buying the DL is definately better than buying the DVD. 720p is alot better than 480p so you did the right thing.
  12. FamiliaPhoto macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    That is the boat I'm in. I don't want to spend the money on a Blu-Ray Player unless I could rip them to play on ATV as I am trying to go diskless. I find that when I buy a disk we watch it once and forget about it. When it is on the ATV we watch it more getting more value for our money. One day I'll get an external Blu-Ray drive for my computer and then buy and rip Blu-Ray movies. Until then, iTunes HD will work for me.
  13. EarthDawn macrumors 6502a


    Feb 18, 2008
    Long-eye Land, NY
    Well Star Trek is one of those lovely 99 chapter movies so converting your purchased copy on handbrake etc... to put on your iphone or apple tv ... well it wont work.

    So consider how you want to view it as well... if you want to have to have the physical disc when you want to watch it then buy it at wallmart....
  14. rm2092 thread starter macrumors 6502


    Mar 30, 2008
    As far as the 99 chapter thing the new Transformers movie was the same way but it can be done with Handbrake, it only took me 5 times to get it right, it may of been my bad on that but you can copy the movie.
  15. soLoredd macrumors 6502a

    Mar 12, 2007
    That's what I did as well. But, I made up that decision earlier this year. Unless Blu-Ray replaces the popularity of DVD - the only people I know that even have a BR player are the ones with a PS3 - then I'm just going with downloadable media. I read the Ars review and granted, you do get more with the physical media purchase but what if all I want is the movie? I wouldn't consider 'Star Trek' a must-buy in physical form, not like The Lord of the Rings Trilogy or something.
  16. cdavis11 macrumors 6502

    Aug 31, 2009
    I've gone all digital as well, and don't plan on looking back.

    I did the same thing with music about 6 years ago and couldn't be happier.

    720p is just fine by me - it looks great to my eyes on a 50" plasma at about 12'.

    I came to a realization yesterday that I didn't need my DVD player on my rack. I was thinking about pulling it, and finally said this....all of my DVDs are now ripped, the DVD player isn't capable of putting true HD up there anyway (only upscaled) so why do I have this thing again?

    Besides, my family is now hooked on instant availability (especially kids movies).
  17. MacDryCleaner macrumors regular

    Jun 3, 2007
    I got it ... and now I got a question

    I downloaded the HD with extras version of Star Trek.

    But, there are no deleted scenes with the extras. Am I wrong? Am I not looking in the right place?

    Help! Otherwise I need to go buy the physical discs...yuck.
  18. Scarpad macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2005
    I Almost never watch the extras on a disk, star Trek might be the exception but at most I'll watch them once, maybe rent the disk and watch the extras, supposedly there is a whole seq where Nero gets captured by the Klingons, but from the write up it was a scene that added nothing to the movie and needed to be cut, still would be interesting to see Abrahms take on the klingons
  19. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    Those specs are different from my copy. There seem to be some different ones floating around.

    Attached Files:

  20. lannister80 macrumors 6502


    Apr 7, 2009
    Buy a retail copy, then download a pre-ripped SD or HD version from the Internet.

    Morally equivalent to buying and ripping yourself. Problem solved.

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