gadgetfreaky
macrumors 65816
True or will we have to wait until later in the fall?
The Next MBP coming this June will have Face ID
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The Mercurian
macrumors 68020
I'm not paying extra for that
maflynn
macrumors Haswell
There will be no facid imo, and we'll see an update this June.
Release schedule (summer/fall) is separate to what apple will include in the MBP. Apples and oranges.
narcolpetic-haze
macrumors member
Ahh please no, it'll just add to the price tag. And laptops don't usually need to be locked and unlocked a hundred times a day like a phone, so having it constantly scanning your face isn't necessary.
lambertjohn
macrumors 68000
God, I hope they don't add Face ID. Already got that ridiculous Touch Bar; don't need to add anymore useless features to the MBP.
Samuelsan2001
macrumors 604
I doubt they can fit the infrared 3D mapping cameras in the thin lid of an mbp so it won’t come at all this time round in my opinion.
afir93
macrumors 6502a
I find it a bit curious that you assume that if we don't get Face ID in a June refresh, we would get another refresh just 3 or so months later in fall, so much that you don't even include the option that neither will be the case.
I'm gonna go with "neither". The 2018 MBPs are generally expected to be "just" a spec bump (which is good and well in itself because of how large the jump from 2 to 4 cores and from 4 to 6 cores is respectively), possibly with some other minor changes like an improved keyboard, longer battery life etc. A larger design change like the inclusion of Face ID is pretty much out of question, as is the release of a new MBP with Face ID just 3 or so months later. I'd expect Face ID to debut in the MBPs in 2019 at the very earliest, maybe not until 2020 which would be the year in which a redesign would be due if Apple continues their 4-year-redesign cycle.
I'm gonna go with "neither". The 2018 MBPs are generally expected to be "just" a spec bump (which is good and well in itself because of how large the jump from 2 to 4 cores and from 4 to 6 cores is respectively), possibly with some other minor changes like an improved keyboard, longer battery life etc. A larger design change like the inclusion of Face ID is pretty much out of question, as is the release of a new MBP with Face ID just 3 or so months later. I'd expect Face ID to debut in the MBPs in 2019 at the very earliest, maybe not until 2020 which would be the year in which a redesign would be due if Apple continues their 4-year-redesign cycle.
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maflynn
macrumors Haswell
Not for nothing, but I have a SurfaceBook and its facial recognition works well, in that I open the laptop up and it unlocks. I can see the allure of such technology.
Five_Oh
macrumors 6502
Granted, but for me anyway, an added layer of complexity and cost is not worth one time reaching over to the touch ID sensor per use.
As other posters have commented, it's not like the use case for phones, which are unlocked numerous times per day for often short periods of time.
Wouldn't improve my user experience much.
YMMV
Dave245
macrumors G4
Agree, I don’t think we will see Face ID on the Mac for a few years yet, it’s rumoired to be coming to the iPad Pro this year. As for June announcements I think we could see the following at WWDC
iPad Pro with redesign and Face ID
MacBook Pro spec updates
The new MacBook 13” announcement and release with a price drop to the 12” possibly?
AirPower released
I think it could be the same as last years WWDC which was great, it had both software and hardware updates.
maflynn
macrumors Haswell
I'm just hoping we'll see a new keyboard for the MBP.
Dave245
macrumors G4
If you want a new design I doubt that will happen but they may evolve and improve the current keyboard.
Agreed. I have a SurfaceBook also and the facial recognition is very nice. Very fast and works without any explicit effort (button pushing, typing, etc.) on the part of the user. It just works when you look at the screen. And is arguably more secure than a password.
gadgetfreaky
macrumors 65816
June is WWDC. Just a guess really. If they just do new processors- the update could be any time in late April or May. If there is a big hardware change it will take them longer to get a change out.
Also I was really surprised to see all the comments on FaceID that were extremely negative. I actually really like it. I wish it was faster but I felt that way about Touch ID the first iteration also. It basically allows you not to have to use passwords. I feel like Apple is gonna push the ball forward and put it on ALL devices just like they did with TOuchID.
The sensor itself will eventually get smaller and I think if there is room on a 5 inch phone there is on a 15 inch computer.
It will be interesting to see if the next MBP refresh (whenever it is) includes an updated/improved keyboard. If not, it would indicate the problems are not as wide spread as the scare mongering on here would have you believe (mine is still fine and it's over a year old now.) I'm not saying there have been no problems with it, but only an update would prove Apple consider it wide spread and serious.
They usually keep designs for 4 years. I doubt they'd break the cycle now — why would they?
The sensor will get smaller, but that will not happen this year, and probably also not next year. And its not about the size — its about the thickness. A Mac laptop display is at least 5 times thinner than the iPhone...
I am interested to see this also. To me the keyboard reliability is a consideration on whether to purchase a 2018. I will not be a first day buyer of the 2018 design. And will base my decision to upgrade from the 2015 on reports of the keyboards reliability. A day or two of downtime could cost me as much as the MBP.