The old mac mini

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by Brian Griffin, May 22, 2009.

  1. Brian Griffin macrumors newbie

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    Is it still a viable, decent computer? I'm thinking of getting one as my first mac next month. I'm not a gamer and I don't download much so don't really need much hard drive space.

    Also does it generic PS/2 mouse and keyboards? I'm a student and so can't really afford to fork out for much more at the moment with loan repayments and the like.
     
  2. mooblie macrumors 6502

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    I'll bite at this bit: Yes, but make sure they're generic USB mouse and keyboards (and NOT PS/2 round mini-DIN plugs).

    Two buttons and a scroll wheel are OK on the mouse too - in fact, I prefer them.
     
  3. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Does it not support the mini-DIN plugs?
     
  4. J&JPolangin macrumors 68030

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    ...save up another ~$80 - 100 and get a current gen base model mini from the refurb store...
     
  5. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I really don't need much power so I'm fine with the old generation as long as it works fine for basic tasks.

    Also if I do have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse is there any included equipment to connect it via USB assuming it only supports USB input..
     
  6. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    PS/2 was outdated in 1997. Why do you still have that junk? Buy a ten dollar USB keyboard.
     
  7. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    But I'd need a USB mouse and a monitor as well and it all totes up. I can if I need to but if there's another option, I'd rather take it.
     
  8. zmttoxics macrumors 65816

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    Mac's never supported PS/2 keyboards IIRC (they had one a long time ago that looked the same but wasn't compatible because of the system power switch). Generally, you can ask your selling to chip in a keyboard / mouse to go with it. You can use any 10 dollar mouse and key board you want too, as long as its USB.
     
  9. Fizzoid macrumors 68020

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    old mac mini

    Are you talking about the old G4 Mac Mini?
     
  10. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Don't think so. The ones that recently got replaced and upgraded.

    1.83ghz core 2 duo.
     
  11. mastershakess macrumors 6502

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    Newegg sells USB keyboards for $7, I picked up one for my PC build :)
     
  12. iShater macrumors 604

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    If you are talking about the last gen ore refurbs, they should be fine for you. Add a Mac-compatible USB keyboard and a mouse and a display, and you are set.

    They are selling refurb iMacs for $849.00, if you have a couple of extra hundred $, that would be a better deal.
     
  13. Yvan256 macrumors 601

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    The Mac mini can work with both DVI and VGA monitors. A VGA adaptor is included (and has been with all models so far).

    As for your PS/2 keyboard and mouse, I would suggest a PS/2 to USB converter. Several units are available at monoprice.com:
    2274, 173, 2083, 3707

    Please note that I have not tested any of the converters listed above. I did use something similar back when I got my Mac mini G4, and the converter I used had a problem: you could not hold a key (to repeat) and then press another key (the repeating key would get cancelled by the new key pressed). If that makes any sense, let's just say it made playing some games impossible with the keyboard. Other than that, it worked great.

    Are you sure, however, that your mouse is only PS/2? Some older mouses had a PS/2 connector but were also USB compatible with the use of a simple adapter. Of course if you do buy a PS/2 converter you would be wasting a USB port and require such an adapter too, but I was just mentioning it in case you go the USB keyboard route. Just make sure your PS/2 mouse is also USB compatible before connecting such an adapter (monoprice Product ID 2209).

    P.S.: No I don't work for monoprice, but I recently ordered a few items from them and I'm just a satisfied customer. No to mention that their prices are extremely good.

    Also, about going "last gen" vs "new gen", be aware that the nVidia 9400M in the new models is way, way better than the intel GMA950 in the previous models. And with Snow Leopard, the upcoming Mac OS X version, being able to take advantage of GPUs, I would opt for a refurb of a new model instead of buying a last-gen model. I won't even mention recent/upcoming games, where the GMA950 isn't even a viable option (ex: Starcraft II, Diablo III). And since you can't upgrade the GPU in any Macs except for the Mac Pro, better buy the latest Mac mini IMHO.
     
  14. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'll have to go down the USB route then.

    Thanks.

    By the way, will this model run photoshop? Not intensive stuff. I'm no graphics designer just basic, hobbyist use.
     
  15. opeter macrumors 65816

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    Pirated photoshop?

    I recommend you try out GIMP instead, or buy something like Pixelmator. If you have the money, go for the Photoshop Elements, or even older version of Photoshop aka CS3 on eBay (but be warned, it is still a lot's of money and not worth for a hobbyist).
     
  16. keithlcp macrumors newbie

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    that really old =]
     
  17. maclover001 macrumors 6502a

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    Get the older Intel, but don't get a G4 (Unless it's a Cube. Their carcasses make good art pieces)
     
  18. barkmonster macrumors 68020

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    The price difference between a used Mac Mini and a 2Ghz Macbook on eBay is so small, I'd go for the laptop unless you manage to get one for peanuts. The Macbook has several advantages:-

    Built-in display.
    Dual display support if you want it.
    4Gb RAM support.
    User accessible HD bay

    People are charging WAY too much for used Mac Mini systems. Apple were selling off the old 1.83Ghz systems in January for £325, people are having the cheek to ask £400 for them on eBay used!

    Of course, if you got a used 2Ghz Mac Mini for less than £300 (or equivalent), it would be a good buy.
     
  19. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    No I have an educational license.
     
  20. srexy macrumors 6502a

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    False economy applies to the old Mini. If you can pony up the extra $75 (or your currency equivalent) for a refurb early 09 you'll be looking at a much more future-proof unit. Or as mentioned - a whitebook might be even better if you don't have a kb and dvi capable monitor.
     
  21. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'll be buying on finance and no reputable finance offering stores here (UK) are selling the newest one yet.
     
  22. barkmonster macrumors 68020

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    The Apple Store themselves offer finance

    Mac Mini
    2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    1GB memory
    120GB hard drive
    8x double-layer SuperDrive
    NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics

    Ships: 2 business days
    Free Shipping
    £499.00

    as low as £17.27 a month†
     
  23. SkyBell macrumors 604

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    I don't understand why people are pushing you to get a newer model, but IMO, the machine you listed will be great for your uses. There isn't a large difference between the old and new mini, it would just be a waste to spend the extra money on the very slightly better model.
     
  24. zap2 macrumors 604

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    For the small difference in cash, he gets a much much better machine.

    The graphic card difference is huge, and with Snow Leopard, thats a big deal. The ability for more RAM is something I'd be all over. (3.3Gbs vs 4GBs). The CPU is also faster.

    I'd highly suggest a refub 2009 Mac Mini over the 2007 model, the cost between the two is minor if you're going to be using this machine for an extended period of time
     
  25. Brian Griffin thread starter macrumors newbie

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    From what I've heard Apple's Financing is harder to get and regardless, during a recession, as a student, I can't afford to splash much more than £10 or 11 a month at the minute.
     

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