Just to be noted that my original iPhone with the original OS, I had a jailbroken "notifications on the lockscreen" from Cydia well before any Android phone was even out...
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The photocopiers have been in overdrive in Cupertino
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Just to be noted that my original iPhone with the original OS, I had a jailbroken "notifications on the lockscreen" from Cydia well before any Android phone was even out...
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As did my XDA II back in 2004.
gkarris said:
As did my XDA II back in 2004.
I must be the only nerd here who doesn't care when a feature/idea is ripped off and made better (or just ripped off, with no improvements). Yes, it goes both ways, and yes, I find it better that someone uses a good idea already in existence rather than attempt to invent something new, but similar, just for the sake of doing so.
After that, companies are likely to be innovative and change that feature anyway, in order to differentiate their features and products.
After that, companies are likely to be innovative and change that feature anyway, in order to differentiate their features and products.
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Lucky boy!
*LTD* said:
Lucky boy!
And Konfabulator gave widgets to OS X before Apple did...
Companies ape features from each other all the time. That's just part of how they stay competitive.
Lethal
You're forgetting that it was crap. Godawful slow Celeron processor, not enough RAM and sloth-like HDD. The keyboard looked funky but was unusable.
The company bought a couple of Samsung Q1's on evaluation for a some touch evangelist users. They quickly got dumped in a drawer and forgotten about. Like most Microsoft tablet devices they just suck in use - see also the Compaq TC1100. The iPad was that type of device done properly once the hardware had caught up to the concept.
Of couse it goes both ways. Its just that it's always Apple fanboys screaming that Microsoft copies everything, when clearly thats not the case here.
I love this.
When someone else copies Apple it is LOOK LOOK COPY CAT from people like you.
But when Apple does very blantet copying the response is "Well those devices did not sell well so it does not count" that or just bury head in sand.
Got to love fanboy logic. Or more so lack of logic. And you all wonder why Apple fanboys are not respected and though of as a joke by rest of the world.
I wouldn't call most of these rip offs. Sure they're are the same but it's not ground breaking stuff and I don't think we would go calling them complete rip offs if Apple made them first. I mean, having stuff on your lock screen, you could probably say that it kind of came from dashboard, or a blatant android copy. But I think it's a fairly obvious and trivial addition. It's not like apple ripped off android's lock screen button maze password, which is an iconic feature. Tabbed browsing, big deal, tabs were already in mobile safari and have been in firefox/firebird for a while now, nothing new.
I think the iOS update was more about adding little things, fairly obvious for such a young OS.
One you forgot to mention is the Camera+ app. The app allowed you to snap pictures using the volume buttons but Apple removed it from the app store.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/12/camera-pulled-from-app-store-for-volume-button-as-camera-shutt/
Here's his reaction (actually the guy is okay with it, hope he got some money from Apple under the table or something)
http://gigaom.com/2011/06/06/app-developers-learn-to-cope-when-apple-encroaches/
I think the iOS update was more about adding little things, fairly obvious for such a young OS.
One you forgot to mention is the Camera+ app. The app allowed you to snap pictures using the volume buttons but Apple removed it from the app store.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/12/camera-pulled-from-app-store-for-volume-button-as-camera-shutt/
Here's his reaction (actually the guy is okay with it, hope he got some money from Apple under the table or something)
http://gigaom.com/2011/06/06/app-developers-learn-to-cope-when-apple-encroaches/
Most don't care but when you see Apple use a whole "Redmond, start your photocopiers" campaign at WWDC a few years back along with people like LTD who have a delusional sense of reality, a thread like this is pretty entertaining.
Nobody can always be original and bring only new ideas. Why do cars have four wheels? Would people say that all car manufacturers copy Benz? That is the way it has been and will always be. When people talk about copycat is when someone takes a feature and copies it without really adjusting it in any way.
Apple did implement notifications the way Google did. Having played with both I would never want to use the Google version, because it looks ugly and makes me think we live in the 19th century. (as with most things Google does).
Apple has took some nice ideas and implemented them in a unique way. iOS 5 is a major release and combined iCloud it will extend the advantage Apple has in the mobile wars.
Apple did implement notifications the way Google did. Having played with both I would never want to use the Google version, because it looks ugly and makes me think we live in the 19th century. (as with most things Google does).
Apple has took some nice ideas and implemented them in a unique way. iOS 5 is a major release and combined iCloud it will extend the advantage Apple has in the mobile wars.
except apple does it with better taste, better performance and a cleaner look. also their closed market app store makes it so no joe-shmo can make a app for your iphone that can carry a virus for your cell phone. cough cough android cough.
Oh please, are apple fanboys hiding behind they implemented a copy feature better. Its not like apple improved it, they copied it.
I have no problems with apple copying it, They did that to xerox in Palo Alto back in the day (GUI, mouse etc). What is funny is the logical gymnastics apple fanboys are going through because apple did not "innovate" The latest iteration of android is extremely polish, and performs very well. WP7 while lack luster in sales is very highly regarded amongst those that do use it.
Don't confuse Apple's branding and marketing with better taste and performance.
Don't forget that Android has had PC-free setup since the start too. Another feature ripped by Apple.
AS did most other smartphone and PDA o/s before Android too. Turn the device on, and off you go!
And Windows and Linux had the ability to go full screen and resize from any corner since the start as well.
Its nice to see apple catching up to the 1990s
Yeah, I forgot about that. In fact, I think iOS is the only one that required a PC for setup.
Smart phones have been doing it since they came into existence in the late 1990s, but when Apple does it in 2011, it's new and innovative
Apple really didn't show us anything new this WWDC, did they?
Oh, iTunes Match and iCloud. These would be awesome if Grooveshark and Drop Box didn't exist. I stream music all the time at work, even stuff I don't own. Awesome. And Drop Box has been automagically syncing my shiz for ages.
But now it's under the Apple umbrella, so it's awesome.
Oh, iTunes Match and iCloud. These would be awesome if Grooveshark and Drop Box didn't exist. I stream music all the time at work, even stuff I don't own. Awesome. And Drop Box has been automagically syncing my shiz for ages.
But now it's under the Apple umbrella, so it's awesome.
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I don't really care that Apple copied Android. If it improves the OS and user experience, that's a good thing. Imitation, is after all, the sincerest form of flattery. I just think that Apple should own up to it. There's a spin Apple puts on everything, making it seem 100% unique and exceptional, and some people (in this thread...) eat it up wholesale.
As a customer I don't like that I had to wait 1 year+ to see these rather basic features. If Apple was just going to copy others, it shouldn't have taken so damn long.