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Right. There are really very, very few reasons doing an "app" on the wrist is better than the phone.

It's a hard concept to sell, especially to Americans but you are kind of doing it there without even knowing it. Apple Watch "apps" shouldn't be better than or equal to your phone apps. They should simply replace the need to use your phone apps.

Everyone I know pulls out their phones and stays in apps too long already wasting time. That's fine when you are trying to kill time waiting in a line or in traffic but we have all become accustomed to using an app and then checking our email and then going into browser and then... It's nervous energy and useless for productivity.

Since my Apple Watch, I find myself looking at my emails less and less on my phone and I realize that I never needed to look at them in the first place. The emergency ones get through in the from or a call or text which my watch delivers instantly without having to go for my phone. It's a subtle feature that many users will not get (including my wife who does not like her Apple Watch).
 
I guess what I don't buy at all is the notion that one cannot be whole and complete without the Apple Watch. Too many comments like "you wont understand until you have one" or "you are envious" for me to think that this object will significantly impact my life. Me thinks maybe there are more people out there who haven't figured out why they have the thing than those who have figured out where it fits into their lives.
 
For YOU! The Narcissism around here is unbelievable. Just because YOU do not have a need, you have no way to understand that others do?

I simply don't get people these days. There is tons of technology I don't personally have a use for, but I can understand that others have different needs/wants than me.

I did not in any way perscribe my approach to notifications, etc. to anyone. Calm down and reread my posts.

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Too many comments like "you wont understand until you have one" or "you are envious" for me to think that this object will significantly impact my life.

It just sounds defensive to me. I love the Surface Pro, but i understand many people think its pointless. I never thought to say they were "envious"
 
Too many comments like "you wont understand until you have one" or "you are envious" for me to think that this object will significantly impact my life.

The truth is that it is very rare for an object to actually impact your life... Maybe a music instrument will trigger a passion or something like that. But I doubt a watch or a smartphone will really impact your life. It's rare to meet a human being who impacts your life, so a mere object...

When I was a kid, I spend a year without electricity (so, no TV, no fridge, no light), without running water (we had a cold water spot outside the house). Guess what ? It didn't significantly impact my life, it mostly went on mostly as usual.

We buy objects like the Apple watch or the iPhone because - why not ? It's fun, it's not that expensive and it has some uses. But you have to set reasonable expectations from objets.
 
Glad to see that the weight of the Apple Watch has an added benefit for physical increase in arm muscles.
I wonder if there is a build in app that monitor muscle mass changes in your arm.

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We buy objects like the Apple watch or the iPhone because - why not ? It's fun, it's not that expensive and it has some uses. But you have to set reasonable expectations from objets.

Tim Cook thinks otherwise : 0

"I see the smart watch category very much like that. There are several things that are called smart watches, but I'm not sure you could name any. There hasn't been one that changed the way people live their lives. At Apple, that's our objective. We want to change the way you live your life."
 
Unfortunately the Apps for the watch are nothing to talk about. At this point in time. The small screen makes it challenging and impractical for many Apps Don't expect the functionality that we have on the iPhone
 
And don't forget how cheap women are when they go out together and also they are not that good at math to begin with. Just saying...;):D:rolleyes::mad::eek::(:):confused::eek::apple:

I know you are just kidding but I typically tip 20% and most of the people on here (males, I assume) are talking about 10-15% tip calculations. Then there's my engineering degree that required many classes in advanced math. So I would dispute your joke about women and math. Maybe you just don't realize when women are faking being bad at things so you won't be intimidated and will feel useful? A typical female ploy to get men to like them.

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Glad to see that the weight of the Apple Watch has an added benefit for physical increase in arm muscles.
I wonder if there is a build in app that monitor muscle mass changes in your arm.

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Obviously you've never tried an Watch on or you would know this makes no sense.
 
I did not in any way perscribe my approach to notifications, etc. to anyone. Calm down and reread my posts.

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It just sounds defensive to me. I love the Surface Pro, but i understand many people think its pointless. I never thought to say they were "envious"

Your post did have a tone to it (as I mentioned in reference to using the word "manipulated" there). Perhaps you didn't necessarily mean it to come off the way it did, but it certainly seems to nonetheless.

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I guess what I don't buy at all is the notion that one cannot be whole and complete without the Apple Watch. Too many comments like "you wont understand until you have one" or "you are envious" for me to think that this object will significantly impact my life. Me thinks maybe there are more people out there who haven't figured out why they have the thing than those who have figured out where it fits into their lives.

Or plenty have and find it rather odd that others would somehow see it important to point out the pointlessness of something simply because they don't care about it or don't see its usefulness to them.
 
"I see the smart watch category very much like that. There are several things that are called smart watches, but I'm not sure you could name any. There hasn't been one that changed the way people live their lives. At Apple, that's our objective. We want to change the way you live your life."

Well, Tim Cook speaks marketing, like every single CEO out there. It's their job. I the world had really changed everytime Microsoft was going to change it, we would not recognize it at all...


But it will probably make some significant changes down the road, just like the Lisa and Mac changed computing quite a bit and like the iPhone changed phones too. Remember that every single Apple product was a failure at first : the Lisa, the iPod, the iPhone... But Apple is a stubborn company and they keep going until they do have a product that impacts the market in a major way - just like the iPhone managed to kill Blackberry and to set the norm for every smartphone currently on the market.
They just won't change your life, you won't live forever, double your pay and score supermodels just because you own an Apple Watch...

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Obviously you've never tried an Watch on or you would know this makes no sense.

Yes, exactly. If anything, the Apple watch is too small. Even the 42mm looked tiny on my wrist. It's also small compared to the current male fashion that seems to go after very big watches. Apple could have easily done a 50mm model, which would have solved a lot of things...
 
The calculator app shouldn't even be sold in the US considering most states have a sales tax of ~8% so to calculate tip just double the tax.

Anyhow, interesting that every OS has a default calculator app except for iOS since Apple really want that 30% commission from calculator app sales.
 
Is the general consensus that this thing is not a must have device? Also, if you feel that way, is there something in particular that WOULD make it a must have device? Just curious, as a still interested but yet to take the plunge outsider.

It is really simple for me: not having to take my phone out of my purse to see who the email is from, who is calling, who is texting makes this a must have for me. I knew this was coming when I went for the iPhone 6+ as I used to carry my phone in my back pocket — unless for some weird reason I was wearing a dress or skirt — and the phone could, and now can, stay safely buried unless important. Same for driving. I don't try and read emails/texts while driving, but I sure am curious who is the sender, and now that is solved by a glance at my wrist.

I don't think this needs a killer app although one is bound to come along*. This is going to be a must have for every person who is working with their hands, or running around and not sitting at desk. It lets you know when it is worth stopping what you are doing to read and/or respond.

I am very amused by all the people saying "what's the big deal?". I have had mine since launch and I love it. I always wore a watch to check the time, and this does that too;-).

*I predict the health monitoring aspects will be the big push to ubiquity, at least for anyone with health issues. Fitness buffs will go crazy.
 
The calculator app shouldn't even be sold in the US considering most states have a sales tax of ~8% so to calculate tip just double the tax.

Anyhow, interesting that every OS has a default calculator app except for iOS since Apple really want that 30% commission from calculator app sales.

iOS has a default calculator app (and plenty of free third party ones as well).

And who cares what someone might use a calculator for? What's it to anyone else? One of the silliest things I've come across people pretending to care about and making a mountain out not even mole hill but basically nothing.
 
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Well, Tim Cook speaks marketing, like every single CEO out there. It's their job. I the world had really changed everytime Microsoft was going to change it, we would not recognize it at all...


But it will probably make some significant changes down the road, just like the Lisa and Mac changed computing quite a bit and like the iPhone changed phones too. Remember that every single Apple product was a failure at first : the Lisa, the iPod, the iPhone... But Apple is a stubborn company and they keep going until they do have a product that impacts the market in a major way - just like the iPhone managed to kill Blackberry and to set the norm for every smartphone currently on the market.
They just won't change your life, you won't live forever, double your pay and score supermodels just because you own an Apple Watch...

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Yes, exactly. If anything, the Apple watch is too small. Even the 42mm looked tiny on my wrist. It's also small compared to the current male fashion that seems to go after very big watches. Apple could have easily done a 50mm model, which would have solved a lot of things...

The current average male watch IS 42mm (that size is no accident); you can check on sites that sell all models from all brands. That size, 42mm, is much bigger than say 20 years ago; but there is a limit to the things people will wear on their wrist.
A 50mm is monstrous and let me tell you, I don't see many people with that size in real life.
As for "solving", solving what? Everyone seems to be finishing their day with 30-50% left (unless they go training for 3-4h).
The Samsung Gears 55mm and let me tell you its the worse crap you could put on your wrist (and yes, it is way too large and butt ugly).
Also, making it bigger would mean it can't be used by women who want a larger watch, and it probably can't be used for exercise too. There's a reason why the sports watch weights less.
Maybe one day they'll offer a 46mm (never a 50mm), but I doubt it, unless they change the format completely (say making it a band instead).
 
Good thing people like you are in the minority or we'd all still be writing on clay tablets or with burned sticks on tree bark.

No matter what anyone writes, your only comeback is "it's silly"? You simply have nothing.

Many have listed and pointed out what they are using it for, hard examples. Still, all you can say is "useless" and "silly".

I'm getting plenty of use out of mine. The only useless and silly thing here is you.
Bye, bye, now. You're blocked.
Learn to read. I and people that share my opinion stand on solid ground when we say the watch is useless for most people. Sorry. And grow up. The block option is best used to block trolls or similar, not somebody that just have a different opinion. In real life are you going to ignore everybody that has a different opinion?
 
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I am extremely sensitive to weight and trappings (I wear only a ring, no bracelets, necklaces, etc.) and I am happy to report that the Sport watch is unnoticeable to me in all day wearing.

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Glad to see that the weight of the Apple Watch has an added benefit for physical increase in arm muscles.
I wonder if there is a build in app that monitor muscle mass changes in your arm.

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The current average male watch IS 42mm (that size is no accident); you can check on sites that sell all models from all brands. That size, 42mm, is much bigger than say 20 years ago; but there is a limit to the things people will wear on their wrist.
A 50mm is monstrous and let me tell you, I don't see many people with that size in real life.
As for "solving", solving what? Everyone seems to be finishing their day with 30-50% left (unless they go training for 3-4h).
The Samsung Gears 55mm and let me tell you its the worse crap you could put on your wrist (and yes, it is way too large and butt ugly).
Also, making it bigger would mean it can't be used by women who want a larger watch, and it probably can't be used for exercise too. There's a reason why the sports watch weights less.
Maybe one day they'll offer a 46mm (never a 50mm), but I doubt it, unless they change the format completely (say making it a band instead).


I view the watch as a remote control for the phone. And its usefulness is very similar: I don't have to get off the proverbial couch anymore. Human nature will always gravitate to what is easier. A garbage can with no lid is used more than one with a lid (unless hands-free), shelves are used more readily than drawers, drawers more readily than cabinets. A laptop more than a desktop, a tablet more than a laptop, a phone more than a tablet. See where this is going? The 38mm is perfect on my 7" wrist. It is extremely readable.

I would value the opinions of people who lived with the watch for a month and then gave it up. That would tell me something.
 
I must admit to not reading every post in this thread, so this may have already been stated...

The phone is not always just 10 inches from your wrist. Often at home, my phone is NOT in my pocket but somewhere else in the house charging. It's nice to be able to do many things that I would normally need to find my phone for. Like most everything else, its just a convenience, but one I can appreciate over the course of the life of a smartwatch.

I had the galaxy s5 and gear 2 neo, and it was wonderful to be able to screen or even answer calls without having to get up and run to the phone when its not on me. Now that I have the iPhone 6, I desperately miss that. For that reason alone I can't wait for the Apple watch to ship.

Yes, all this. And add on that some of us carry our iPhone somewhere other than a pocket so it's not that easily accessible to constantly check on things. And there are many situations where we need both hands for other things (dragging luggage, carrying groceries, etc.)

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Learn to read. I and people that share my opinion stand on solid ground when we say the watch is useless for most people. Sorry. And grow up. The block option is best used to block trolls or similar, not somebody that just have a different opinion. In real life are you going to ignore everybody that has a different opinion?

I wish you would just admit that you only know what YOU need, not what most people need. Unless you are a professional consumer testing company that conducted a statistically valid survey, you need to confine your comments to things you actually know as fact and not simply extrapolations of your singular experience. Even if it's true that most people don't need it, what difference does it make to those of us who do? I don't need an iPad but you won't find me whining about not needing an iPad or criticizing people who do need one on an iPad article.

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The calculator app shouldn't even be sold in the US considering most states have a sales tax of ~8% so to calculate tip just double the tax.

Anyhow, interesting that every OS has a default calculator app except for iOS since Apple really want that 30% commission from calculator app sales.

In MN, liquor has a 2.5% tax in addition to the sales tax. And what if you are splitting the check into what each person actually had? Are you going to recalculate the tax for everyone, lol?
 
Learn to read. I and people that share my opinion stand on solid ground when we say the watch is useless for most people. Sorry. And grow up. The block option is best used to block trolls or similar, not somebody that just have a different opinion. In real life are you going to ignore everybody that has a different opinion?
So people know what other people, let alone most people, need or want and how they live their life? It's just surprising the world isn't just one united country where things are the same for everyone because everyone knows what everyone else needs and wants, and it's basically exactly what they themselves need and want.
 
some apps are probably useful, like being on a smaller display will often now mean, limited options on screen as "oh gee, u mean i must pan to the second screen just to see the buttons ?" Probably not a huge deal breaker, but all these small things really add up over time..
 
... said the person who clearly hasn't spent more than 5 minutes with one.

No matter how much people say it, the fact seems to escape the naysayers: the Apple Watch is NOT A REPLACMENT FOR AN IPHONE.

On the iPhone, you consume data; on the Watch, you take small sips--you get notifications during the day, or you use it for specific things that lend themselves to the Apple Watch. For example:

iPhone -- read Twitter feed, articles, Facebook;
Watch -- get a notification of a retweet or a direct message,but don't read either Twitter or Facebook feeds;

iPhone -- look at calendar, add to calendar, edit events;
Watch -- get notification of an upcoming event, get an alarm reminder;

iPhone -- See where your Uber driver is on a map;
Watch -- summon an Uber car;

iPhone -- set up trips in Tripit; add items, flights, hotels, etc.;
Watch -- see the upcoming flight's info

iPhone -- make flight reservations, get a boarding pass;
Watch -- pull up the QR code for the flight and walk into the jetway using your watch to check in;

iPhone -- see detailed weather info;
Watch -- get a summary of the weather.

It's not the same thing, and one doesn't replace the other; I love wearing a watch and have worn one since I was a kid, and although I have a cherished Tag Heuer that I've had for 25 years, I put it in storage and am thrilled to use my Watch on a daily basis. Use it for a few days and it grows on you; after almost 3 weeks, I can't imagine not having my SS Milanese.

That amounts to a perpetual inoculation of data checking. Now you'll be constantly looking at your watch, tapping it, looking closely at it....
 
So people know what other people, let alone most people, need or want and how they live their life? It's just surprising the world isn't just one united country where things are the same for everyone because everyone knows what everyone else needs and wants, and it's basically exactly what they themselves need and want.
Most means the majority of people, meaning over 50%. I was being generous here, so that I wouldn't shoot myself in the foot. Its not hard to show that it'll be useless the majority of people. It's probably more accurate to say this watch is useless for almost everyone but that'll be hard to prove so I won't say that.
 
The current average male watch IS 42mm (that size is no accident)

Except it's 42mm on a round watch, so it's 42mm in all dimensions. The Apple Watch is rectangular and 42mm is its biggest dimension. The 42mm is only 36mm wide. So, in fact, it's quite smaller than a regular 42mm watch.

"A 50mm is monstrous and let me tell you, I don't see many people with that size in real life."

Honestly, I have seen people wear watches so big they can also serve as a weapon. And I know that when I tried the 42mm, I was surprised at how tiny it felt on my wrist and how tight the wrist was (I'm on the last notch on the sport wrist and it's a tight fit). A 50mm, especially a rectangular one, would have been the perfect size.

"As for "solving", solving what? Everyone seems to be finishing their day with 30-50% left (unless they go training for 3-4h)."

You could have gone for two days, including training. And the screen would be a little bigger.

"Also, making it bigger would mean it can't be used by women who want a larger watch, and it probably can't be used for exercise too. There's a reason why the sports watch weights less."

Well, I see people "jog" everyday with tiny weights in their hands, so I guess the extra weight of the watch would not bother them. Besides, if you're in a sport where 50 extra gram on your wrist is a no go, you probably don't want to wear a watch when you practice anyway.
And the materials matter more than the size - just look at the different between the aluminium and steel version. A 50mm sport would still weight less than the 38mm steel and sapphire version...
 
John Gruber says the updated MLB app makes it one of his favorite Watch apps now. Anyone have screen shots?

Oh and someone needs to ban the phrase "killer app". It's so meaningless. What's the killer app for the iPhone? The internet?
Angry Birds? Given how many people got sucked into Flappy Bird, I wouldn't be surprised if folks went "gaga" got an iPhone primarily for that.

The general consensus is that the phrase "must have device" is utterly meaningless. There is NOT "must have device" unless, perhaps, you're referring to a pacemaker.
No-one will die without a computer or phone --- or without a house or without books or without nice clothes.
For me, several "must have devices" are my PC and Android smartphone. I use the former for job searches, resumes, cover letters, and work search related activities. The latter I use for job related communications.

If we can count a "car" as a "device", I need that to get to and from work.
 
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