The "S" Cycle

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  1. auxsend macrumors regular

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    This is what kills me. I finally jumped on the iPhone at the 3Gs.

    Then the 4 came out. And it was a huge, major, gigantic upgrade. Part of me knew today was going to be an "S" iteration, and that is what is disappointing.

    I can either get another minor upgrade after waiting over 2 years, or wait another year to get back in the "good" cycle.

    Or I can upgrade now, and then spend a fortune to get back on cycle for the real upgrades.

    There are a lot of people in this cycle, and I think those are the ones who Apple stands to lose, and they won't get all of them, if any, back if they do release another great phone. Next year.

    The "S" Cycle is torture.
     
  2. Hellhammer Moderator

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    What's wrong with your 3GS? It will be able to run iOS 5 so I don't think there is an issue. I also have a 3GS and don't plan on upgrading until the next iPhone (that's when software support for 3GS will be dropped at last).
     
  3. trouble747 macrumors 6502

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    I actually prefer getting the second iteration of each version and skipping the first.
     
  4. haticK macrumors 6502a

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    Look at it this way: you get the 4S now, next year the 5 comes out and you're all sad panda, then the 5S comes out and you're happy panda again. It's a never ending cycle of being unhappy...it's like that with all technology.
     
  5. CrAkD macrumors 68040

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    ive upgraded every year on att no issue.....dont know why it has to be an either or.
     
  6. AreYouIn? macrumors 6502a

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    I hate being on the "s" cycle as well. Luckily I can get this one and use my fathers upgrade to get the next one. I never like the 4 though, so maybe I will give something else a shot for a year.
     
  7. 4:20 macrumors member

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    A bit too much, but I hear what you're saying. I'm on a 3GS myself and feel a bit left out.
     
  8. whawhat macrumors 6502

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    I'm on 3G so might just update to 4 for $99 and call it a day...
     
  9. auxsend thread starter macrumors regular

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    It's just so slow. iOS 4 and many new apps are starting to well outpace the 3gs, and it's bothersome.

    So will I buy a 4s? Yeah, probably. But do I hate this whole "S" concept? Yeah, it sucks.
     
  10. MEJHarrison macrumors 6502a

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    You're still in that cycle. You would go from a 3GS to a 4GS. While the changes from the 4 to the 4GS may not be spectacular, you're not going from a 4 to a 4GS, you're going from a 3GS to a 4GS. So you're still getting all the major updates from the 3 line to the 4 line. It's just that nothing is "new" because you're on the second half of the cycle, not the first.
     
  11. 4:20 macrumors member

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    Well put, Sir. However, if I buy a new gadget I want it to look like a new gadget. Plus, unfortunately I find the iPhone 4 hideous.
     
  12. Eso macrumors 68000

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    You've got it backwards. The 'S' is the "good" cycle; it's more cutting edge. The iPhone 4 uses the same CPU and GPU as the 3GS. That means that it was essentially using year-old tech from the day it was launched. Why do you think that there's no feature of iOS 4 or 5 that the iPhone 4 is getting that the 3GS isn't? They are also stuck with a crappy antenna.

    The A5 is dual-core processor based upon the latest chip architecture. It also has a more modern, multi-core GPU.
     
  13. PlaysARobin macrumors newbie

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    Same here... My wife upgraded myself to the 3GS after it was released and I was holding out for the 4 cycle. My 3GS is slow and glitchy so I had already anticipated replacing it. I had hoped to jump into a fresh number cycle, not just a numbers boost. Don't care too much for the 4's shape but I'll get over it I guess.

    If I weren't tied to iTunes and a lot of apps for work purposes I'd consider another phone. iPhone just works well for my situation so it is what it is.
     
  14. 0x000000 macrumors 6502

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    I feel the same. I was seriously unhappy with the first S-cycle and I know that I can never be happy with the 4S, considering how much of a disappointment it's premiere was.

    I'll either skip the 4S or, should my 3GS die, get a cheap 8GB iPhone 4 off eBay. Or Android, because seriously, nowadays all smarthone OSes are good and usable.
     
  15. eastercat macrumors 68040

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    If I could, I would upgrade on the S cycle. When the 4 came out, it had antenna gate and people who didn't understand that glass breaks when you drop the phone. Also, you have to wait a while for a decent case to come out. It took a while for the otterbox case to come out, so I didn't get my phone until then.
    With the newest iteration of the S cycle, you can get a faster phone, in terms of processor and data speed; better cameras; siri; and a higher capacity, if you choose to get it.
    Anyone with half a brain knew that there wasn't going to be a redesign; it's obviously reserved for even numbered years.
    You get the advantages of the new design and you get most of the kinks worked out of any flaws that may happen in a redesign.
     
  16. 4:20 macrumors member

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    You're not an early adopter. That's half the fun of getting a new gadget.
     
  17. Blaunerts macrumors regular

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    Same here....LOL :p
     
  18. dehory macrumors regular

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    What?
     
  19. auxsend thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well, no, the 3gs has whatever processor it has. The iPhone 4 added the A4 processor, a waaaay better camera, a waaaaay better screen, and waaaay better performance.

    The 4 was a substantial jump in performance. I would know, my wife has one.
     
  20. filfortugno macrumors regular

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    what's the big deal? Just buy it every year subsidized or not? If you can't afford to than spend less time bitching on forums and get yourself a half-decent job.
     
  21. auxsend thread starter macrumors regular

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    yeah.
     
  22. rosemary1 macrumors regular

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    I'm glad to be on the "S" cycle. My 3GS was my first iPhone, which meant for me it was the first iPhone worth spending my money on. Now two+ years later this is exactly the update I was hoping for.
     
  23. iMaconApple macrumors 6502a

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    next year iPhone 4GS.......then iPhone 5 then iPhone 5S/5GS/6....
     
  24. Eso macrumors 68000

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    iPhone 3GS

    CPU: 600 MHz ARM Cortex-A8
    GPU: PowerVR SGX 535

    iPhone 4

    CPU: 800 Mhz ARM Cortex-A8
    GPU: PowerVR SGX 535

    The only difference is that the iPhone 4 has a higher clock speed; it's the same, old, single-core technology. The camera upgrade is analogous to the upgrade you get on the 'S' cycle which you don't seem to find very impressive. The screen is definitely way better, but it was the biggest upgrade of the phone (as it certainly wasn't it's chipset).

    It really isn't. It is slightly faster for just about everything. The average is somewhere between 10-15%. The iPhone 4S is "up to" 100% faster than the iPhone 4; the average performance increase will easily be over 85%.

    Run your own tests side-by-side. You'll see that the iPhone 4 performs better but not dramatically so.
     

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