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The Seagate 3TB drive - the real thing

I thougt they are already available because they are listed on NewEgg (unlike the 750GB 7200RPM laptop drive from Seagate, and that one is set to a mid-August to early-September timeline).
As for the price, remember that this drive costs the same as a Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB - and as it seems, on preorder. I guess they will drop to $180 really soon, and being at $150 when the 4TB one hits the market later.
 
Just a bump up on this post, Anandtech did a review on the external drive and talks about it as an internal as well as an external.

They also identified the NTFS driver that's shipping as the Paragon NTFS.
 
DoFoT9 said:
i am terribly scared about those temperatures! 1MB/s?? thats terrible!! thanks for posting.
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I know, I'd never buy a drive that performed that badly so easily, they should've used a design like the WD drives, so much ventilation, but even that gets pretty hot under heavy use.
 
Schtumple said:
I know, I'd never buy a drive that performed that badly so easily, they should've used a design like the WD drives, so much ventilation, but even that gets pretty hot under heavy use.
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even with proper air ventilation (no extra fan) - i think that its always going to run very hot. will have to wait and see what WD/Hitachi/Samsung can do before diving into these puppies. the 32MB cache turns me off.
 
So, here are the two remaining questions I have:
1. If I pull out the drive from the enclosure and pop it in the Mac Pro, will it allow me to install and boot OS X?
2. If I pull out 4 of the drives and pop them into a Mac Pro with an Apple RAID card, will it allow me to RAID 5 the 4 3 TB drives in place of the current 4 2 TB drives?

Anyone know? It would seem this would work, but thought I'd check if anyone had tried it.
 
centauratlas said:
So, here are the two remaining questions I have:
1. If I pull out the drive from the enclosure and pop it in the Mac Pro, will it allow me to install and boot OS X?
2. If I pull out 4 of the drives and pop them into a Mac Pro with an Apple RAID card, will it allow me to RAID 5 the 4 3 TB drives in place of the current 4 2 TB drives?

Anyone know? It would seem this would work, but thought I'd check if anyone had tried it.
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those will both be fine, however, expect PATHETIC speeds from them. they are yet to be optimised.

what RAID would you use? please dont tell me its a parity based array...not with an apple card...
 
CaoCao said:
Octo means 8 however because of Julius and Augustus Caesar it is the tenth month
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Actually, October was the 8th month of the roman calendar or Romulus.
The calendar year lasted 304 days and there were about 61 days of winter which were not assigned to any month.
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Add Ianuarius and Februarius and rename Quintilis (latin: the fifth) to Iulius and Sextilis (the sixth) to Augustus, there you go.
 
The speed is actually as fast as the 4 x 2 TB drives that were in there.

The only problem is that the drive only shows 2.2TB per drive with the Apple RAID card in the Mac Pro (MacPro3,1, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 3 GHz, 8GB RAM, 1.6 GHz bus, Boot ROM V: MP31.006C.B05)

So, it is not perfect but performance in a RAID 5 was not noticeably slower or faster than the previous one.

I pulled them back out and put the 2TB drives back in since the 2.2 TB wasn't buying much space. I can use them elsewhere (hopefully).

Firmware V: M-2.0.5.5
Hardware Rev: 1.00
Driver version: 118
Expansion ROM V: 0018

PCI Slot: Slot-4
Hardware Version: 1.00
Firmware Version: M-2.0.5.5
Expansion ROM Version: 0018
Shutdown Status: Normal shutdown
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Firmware Revision: 1.0.2
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DoFoT9 said:
those will both be fine, however, expect PATHETIC speeds from them. they are yet to be optimised.

what RAID would you use? please dont tell me its a parity based array...not with an apple card...
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centauratlas said:
The speed is actually as fast as the 4 x 2 TB drives that were in there.

The only problem is that the drive only shows 2.2TB per drive with the Apple RAID card in the Mac Pro (MacPro3,1, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 3 GHz, 8GB RAM, 1.6 GHz bus, Boot ROM V: MP31.006C.B05)

So, it is not perfect but performance in a RAID 5 was not noticeably slower or faster than the previous one.

I pulled them back out and put the 2TB drives back in since the 2.2 TB wasn't buying much space. I can use them elsewhere (hopefully).

Firmware V: M-2.0.5.5
Hardware Rev: 1.00
Driver version: 118
Expansion ROM V: 0018

PCI Slot: Slot-4
Hardware Version: 1.00
Firmware Version: M-2.0.5.5
Expansion ROM Version: 0018
Shutdown Status: Normal shutdown
Write Cache Enabled: Yes
Battery Info:
Firmware Revision: 1.0.2
...
Status:
Charging: Yes
Conditioning: No
Connected: Yes
Discharging: No
Sufficient Charge: Yes
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Does the optical bay also run via the RAID card? If not, try putting it in there.
 
The optical drive bay is not on the RAID card. Only the 4 bays - if it could handle 5, that would be a plus! I think one of them would work there, but did not try it yet. I'll give it a shot at some point - I have a 500GB drive in that spot now so it is easy to pop it out.

Giuly said:
Does the optical bay also run via the RAID card? If not, try putting it in there.
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centauratlas said:
The optical drive bay is not on the RAID card. Only the 4 bays - if it could handle 5, that would be a plus! I think one of them would work there, but did not try it yet. I'll give it a shot at some point - I have a 500GB drive in that spot now so it is easy to pop it out.
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Apples RAID cards are 4 port cards. There is no way to connect a fifth drive, no matter where you physically locate it in you Pro.
 
I know. That was the point of saying "optical drive bay is not on the RAID card. Only the 4 bays - if it could handle 5, that would be a plus!"

Perhaps you were replying to someone else and quoting me on it.

I do think that one of the 3TB drives would work in the optical bay and show up with its full size, but have not tried it there yet.

Transporteur said:
Apples RAID cards are 4 port cards. There is no way to connect a fifth drive, no matter where you physically locate it in you Pro.
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centauratlas said:
The speed is actually as fast as the 4 x 2 TB drives that were in there.
So, it is not perfect but performance in a RAID 5 was not noticeably slower or faster than the previous one.
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is each individual drive reaching the expected ~130MB/s then, like in the case it came with (via eSata)?

The only problem is that the drive only shows 2.2TB per drive with the Apple RAID card in the Mac Pro (MacPro3,1, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 3 GHz, 8GB RAM, 1.6 GHz bus, Boot ROM V: MP31.006C.B05)
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that isnt the only problem ;) using a parity based RAID array on the Apple RAID card is NOT recommended. it is a terrible card.
 
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