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After pushing and pleading and generally becoming a royal pain in Warner Brothers' butt, Zack Snyder and a small army of fans have finally done it. They've gotten Warner to commit to releasing Snyder's director's cut of "Justice League".

For those of you who don't know about it, don't cringe. Yes, "Justice League" was a cobbled-up Frankenstein monster of a film. But that was largely due to having two different directors with two very different visions. (Here's how that came to be.) Over the past couple of years, convincing Warner to release the Snyder Cut has become something of a holy grail for comic book movie enthusiasts.

Snyder is going to restore his original version of the story, which apparently fills in a lot of information left out of the original, including the appearance of Darkseid.

Now I have an actual reason to pay for HBO Max.

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Yeah, I've been chuckling over this for the last day or so. There was this INSANE movement to get it released, Snyder kept saying, "Won't happen", WB the same ... then BOOM, we're doing it. Too bad they didn't start sooner, HBOMax starts at the end of the month, but this isn't scheduled till 2021.

One theory is with production halted on so many shows - many headed for HBOMax - they figured, let's put some extra stuff into development. Apparently they're tossing another $30M at this to get the original post production talent together to create a properly finished product.

Like @Thomas Veil said, Snyder left the production (very sad, his daughter died ...), Joss Whedon finished it, but apparently with some substantial changes[?]
 
After pushing and pleading and generally becoming a royal pain in Warner Brothers' butt, Zack Snyder and a small army of fans have finally done it. They've gotten Warner to commit to releasing Snyder's director's cut of "Justice League".

For those of you who don't know about it, don't cringe. Yes, "Justice League" was a cobbled-up Frankenstein monster of a film. But that was largely due to having two different directors with two very different visions. (Here's how that came to be.) Over the past couple of years, convincing Warner to release the Snyder Cut has become something of a holy grail for comic book movie enthusiasts.

Snyder is going to restore his original version of the story, which apparently fills in a lot of information left out of the original, including the appearance of Darkseid.

Now I have an actual reason to pay for HBO Max.

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I know quite a few forums that I am part of or Facebook groups are ecstatic over this announcement. I wasn't overly impressed with Synder's other movies. I will see it, and I hope it is better, but I am not holding my breath.
 
Based on the thread title, I was thinking this would be about some corona virus induced self-given haircut.
Yeah, I assumed virtually everyone had seen the term so many times it needed no explanation. Wrong. I've adjusted the thread title accordingly.

Yeah, I've been chuckling over this for the last day or so. There was this INSANE movement to get it released, Snyder kept saying, "Won't happen", WB the same ... then BOOM, we're doing it.
What's funny too is that first Snyder started agitating for it himself by posting unreleased photos of his version. Then he got Gal Gadot, Jason Mamoa and Ben Affleck on board pushing for it. When he kept releasing more and more photos and story descriptions the fan clamor got to such a pitch that (rumor had it) Warner Brothers got pissed and Snyder was persona non grata there. And now, this.
 
A little clarification on what the "Snyder cut" is actually.


"It's been months of discussions with Zack and the producers to figure out how to do it," Greenblatt said. "Because it isn't as easy as just going into the vault and there's a Snyder Cut sitting there to put out…it does not exist. Zack is actually building it, and it's complex. Including – and I don't want to get into too much detail that we haven't already talked about yet – but new effects shots. It's a radical rethinking of that movie, and it's complicated and wildly expensive, of course a number I won't quote…I'll just say I wish it was just $30 million…It's an enormous undertaking and very complex."
 
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Would the studio bite for such an amount to fix it? I don’t remember seeing the original movie, so if/when it happens, I’ll have to listen to reviews before I jump, if I’m still alive and cognizant. 😜
I'll let someone who enjoyed the film give you their review.

If I do it, it would be basically look like this...
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Basically it will probably become a whole new production without the actors, but making the version Snyder envisioned before he had to ( some say he was getting tossed anyway ) leave.
 
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Would the studio bite for such an amount to fix it?

Let’s say, it does cost $30M, at $15 a subscriber that’s only 2M that would need to sign up to offset the cost - and for reference, there’s 140M HBO subscribers worldwide, 5M in the US for just the Now streaming service. I guess they’re counting on a certain number of subs for just this, and a % of those as continued subscribers. I’m not sure who’s footing the bill, but it’s the same math, probably some kind of exclusive to Max for a decent amount of time.
 
I was bowled over by the "ultimate" cut of Watchmen, however I've not seen Justice League at all and I wasn't at all impressed by 300.

So dunno where this leaves me, other than interested to see what comes out from all this.

Sometimes these cuts worked out far better than the original (e.g. The Richard Donner Superman II cut) and sometimes they feel tiresome (Apocalypse Now Redux), and sometimes it makes an already brilliant movie an extended brilliant movie (Aliens & The Abyss).
 
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I was bowled over by the "ultimate" cut of Watchmen, however I've not seen Justice League at all and I wasn't at all impressed by 300.

So dunno where this leaves me, other than interested to see what comes out from all this.

Sometimes these cuts worked out far better than the original (e.g. The Richard Donner Superman II cut) and sometimes they feel tiresome (Apocalypse Now Redux), and sometimes it makes an already brilliant movie an extended brilliant movie (Aliens & The Abyss).
If you saw Watchmen, you've in a way seen Justice League, especially the beginning where there's so many familiar shots.
 
I just remember when it was announced that the main villain for Justice League was Steppenwolf, we all were hoping it was the band, because they are way scarier than the DC villain named after them. But it wasn't to be. I hate all 3 of the Snyder DC movies, each is worse then the previous one. The fact Snyders original plan was to make Clark and Bruce have the same mom in Dawn of Justice shows how little respect he has for the source material. Justice League was terrible, and Snyder can't fix that. The Snyder cut will likely be worse then the current version, and though they will get lots to sign up for that month, but I doubt it will get a great review from most.
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I’ll watch. As not great as the original is, I still thought it was a better movie than half the Marvel movies and night and day better than the god awful Justice League.
 
I’ll watch. As not great as the original is, I still thought it was a better movie than half the Marvel movies and night and day better than the god awful Justice League.

Right, so this __is__ the Justice League. It's Zack Snyder editing a new movie from the original material, shooting new scenes (assuming no new live actor content), and I guess reverting back to his original script.
 
Well, there will be some “blending” of the stories, since ZSJL is supposed to pay off the otherwise unexplained “Knightmare” sequence from BvS.

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Well, there will be some “blending” of the stories, since ZSJL is supposed to pay off the otherwise unexplained “Knightmare” sequence from BvS.

Yeah, you would actually see Darkseid, thus paying off the "Omega" symbol from that scene.

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