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The "Trust this computer" password prompt shows up every sync on Ventura
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I can too, but I need to do that everytime it trys to sync wired or wirelessly to my Mac.
Ventura has got some trust issues.
yes that's happened to my backup too - server is Mac mini on Ventura, and devices are iPhone and iPad both on iOS 16.1.
This is a known change in iOS 16.1. iMazing, a third-party iOS backup automation tool for macOS and Windows, discusses this iOS change in the release notes.
From Apple, the only official documentation that I've seen is the iOS 16.1 Security Updates list, which notes that CVE-2022-32929 allowed an app to "access iOS backups." The resolution listed is: "A permissions issue was addressed with additional restrictions." That might be the same thing, or not.
From Apple, the only official documentation that I've seen is the iOS 16.1 Security Updates list, which notes that CVE-2022-32929 allowed an app to "access iOS backups." The resolution listed is: "A permissions issue was addressed with additional restrictions." That might be the same thing, or not.
That’s incorrect. Apple intends that a trusted device will maintain its trust status unless a manual reset is performed. So, this is a bug.
About the 'Trust This Computer' alert message on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support (CA)
Learn about trusted computers and find out how to change your settings.
“Your device remembers the computers you've chosen to trust.”
I don't think either of us have enough information to conclude whether this is a bug.
But, despite the UI, this doesn't actually seem related to trust status or the list of Trusted Computers. The Trusted Computers system continues to work properly for every other interaction: syncing content, importing photos, debugging with Xcode, and more. After trusting the computer the first time, those of all work properly without going through the approval flow again.
The only change is with backups. iOS 16.1+ requires the user to interactively confirm every time a non-iCloud backup begins by entering their password on the device.
Thank you for that information but it seems to be outdated for 16.1That’s incorrect. Apple intends that a trusted device will maintain its trust status unless a manual reset is performed. So, this is a bug.
About the 'Trust This Computer' alert message on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support (CA)
Learn about trusted computers and find out how to change your settings.support.apple.com
“Your device remembers the computers you've chosen to trust.”
Is this intentional?
So, everytime your devices are under the same wifi, all your devices will automatically sync and backup, which means you have to enter password again?
I hope it's not intentional. I think it's just that they did a quick and dirty job to block 3rd party sync apps like iMazing or something. They unintentionally broke Finder backup.
They still have this in the documentation.
still happening (since latest betas); once your iphone & mac establish 'trust', you shouldn't have to keep having to authenticate on the phone to backup. seems a bug, not intentional....
So now the only way to back up your iPhone automatically is to pay Apple a subscription for iCloud storage. They better fix this or it'll go down (for me at least) as the most scumbag move in corporate history.
it may be a bug, and so... fixed in an OS update. either way, how far are you from your iphone? when i do this, i put in my 4-digit code, and all is well. no need to move backup to icloud...
Apple has had many opportunities to kill local backups if they wanted to, and they didn't. Hell, they even brought the feature from iTunes to Finder. It's definitely not about iCloud storage revenue. (And Apple loses money on most iCloud storage plans.)
It's almost certainly a workaround for a security vulnerability; iOS local backup is a high-value target that frequently gets exploited because it allows complete access to device data. Hopefully, the workaround is a temporary one...
See https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/imazings-prompt-to-trust-this-computer-on-ios-16.2368517/ discussing (2-Nov) the same issue when using iMazing on the Mac. Note the support reply from iMazing:
"We were waiting for the final iOS 16.1 release to understand if there will be a switch for the passcode request, or it will be permanent. We'll update our guides soon, and the last version should show a request to enter the passcode several minutes before iMazing is going to start a scheduled backup."
So it is understood to be an iOS 16.1 thing (not macOS) and not known if bug or permanent change.
To me, seems most likely a permanent change to "improve" security around iPhone content. Hope I am wrong.
Edit: Also this thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/trust-this-computer-setting-is-not-saving.2368212/ which seems to make it clear that this is iOS 16.1, not macOS version.
"We were waiting for the final iOS 16.1 release to understand if there will be a switch for the passcode request, or it will be permanent. We'll update our guides soon, and the last version should show a request to enter the passcode several minutes before iMazing is going to start a scheduled backup."
So it is understood to be an iOS 16.1 thing (not macOS) and not known if bug or permanent change.
To me, seems most likely a permanent change to "improve" security around iPhone content. Hope I am wrong.
Edit: Also this thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/trust-this-computer-setting-is-not-saving.2368212/ which seems to make it clear that this is iOS 16.1, not macOS version.