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The two great lies about an iphone and the biggest gap.

elgrecomac said:
For the San Diego resident who lives near Carmel Valley, well, so do I. I live near Camino del Sur and Carmel Mt. road, within SITE of the phoquing cell towers on Black Mountain. And my reception in my home is awful. In fact, when I get calls on my cell at home, I call back on my land line to avoid dropped calls. Reception in the north end of SD is poor from my experience. And as for "real" 3G response times up here, well, its a joke. I was in Solana Beach this morning and tried to browse the web: it too 20 seconds to paint the Yahoo home page. The Apple commercials are only 30 seconds long so I think either they are BSing us or ...they are BSing us.
Here is a test for you: go to Camino del Sur and San Dieguito Road, point your phone to the cell towers on Black Mountain and begin web browsing. Awful, just awful. And this is not an isolated item.

Now with regards to the keyboard, sorry folks, but it shouldn't take weeks or months to get good and fast on the keyboard. It lacks feel, it has, on more that a few occasions, a serious lag time issue. It is prone to keystroke errors. It is the single weakest part of the device.

Pandora in a moving car in San Diego- never with any sustained success. Its a myth from my perspective unless connected to my WIFI at home. I've tried with 3 different iphones. Maybe I bought too many. :eek:

The bottom line, I just wished the delivery was as good as what was promised. I am not a beta tester: I left Window XP in 2007. My Mac is 'insanely great' and my iphone, after almost 2 years and a few software upgrades, is a work in process. I think by the time the iphone is 'insanely great', Android and even the crackberry will be comparable in most regards including apps.
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I live in Temecula and there is 3G here. It was a narrow swatch down the main highway, but now most of Temecula is covered by 3G in the 850MHz range, which means good coverage. I went from -100db/-90db to -75db one day and did some research to find out why.

I stream Pandora from Temecula down the 15 to the 78w and through San Marcos to Carlsbad. Never a hitch, never a drop... and I have it set to high quality too.

How do you know the towers on BlkMtn are at&t? What firmware are you running? I'm using 2.0 and haven't had much of a problem, but I haven't been down in SD proper much at all recently.
 
I'm in the Temecula area in Southern California this week and all the way out by Trabuco Canyon, Orange County, California and 3G has been totally awesome FULL Bars of 3G with a couple pockets of dropping to 4 Bars while on the back roads...:cool:
 

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anjinhamarota said:
I type faster on my iPhone than on any other phone I have ever used.
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Same here. When you first start typing with two thumbs, you have to just type a fast paragraph and know that the keys you intend to press are not the keys that are registering, but that the auto-correct will fix most of that. When you look to see what you typed, you are amazed how accurate it is. With TIME, you get better at hitting the right keys in the first place. Today, I can type VERY fast on my iPhone. When I do have to settle for EDGE though, it is noticeably slower than 3G.

SFStateStudent said:
I'm in the Temecula area in Southern California this week and all the way out by Trabuco Canyon, Orange County, California and 3G has been totally awesome FULL Bars of 3G with a couple pockets of dropping to 4 Bars while on the back roads...:cool:
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I go out to the Temecula/Murrietta area about twice a month, and I always have good 3G coverage there. I live in central Orange County, and I have 3-5 bars of 3G in most places.
 
1: I can't wait to be able to TRY 3G one of these days (I do not have it in my area *yet*)

2: I can type amazingly fast and accurate (thanks to auto-correct) on the iPhone keyboard. Interestingly enough, I type slower on the LANDSCAPE keyboard, but it could be that I'm just not used to it as much as I'm used to the PORTRAIT keyboard. I do however wish there was an option for landscape keyboard in Mail and SMS for ONE reason only... it's easier to HOLD the iPhone in landscape because you can grip the sides with your 2 hands better... especially when laying down.

3: No copy and paste has only affected me a FEW times since I've owned my iPod touch and now my iPhone (for over a year!). I certainly wouldn't hate having it there, but it's not a deal breaker for me.

4: I hate flash! It's incredibly jerky and slow on my brother's 1GHz PowerBook G4... I can't imagine how slow it would be on the iPhone! Adobe needs to optimize flash to run faster and more efficient first before we can see it on the iPhone. Also, I'm not a huge fan of flash-based websites anyway. It's just all eye-candy that gets in the way of the content. Also, one of my favorite band's site is in flash and I'd like to copy and paste their lyrics into iTunes but, I can't because the lyrics text is also in flash... lame. I wouldn't care if the iPhone NEVER gets flash EVER.

5: I don't like how easily the iPhone cracks. I don't know how much better the current 3Gs are but, they crack without even treating them bad.
 
People should by now have noticed that 3G is only as fast as the network provider they use.

In Scandinavia we can easily surf at 3.6 / 7.2Mbit on the iPhone 3G.
 
To the OP:
Are you using any kind of case or protector on your phone?
Some poorly designed cases can block reception and cause weaker signal strength.
Also, I originally bought a silicon case that extended slightly past the front of the iPhone and had a lot of trouble typing on the keys nearest the edges of the screen.
If you have a case, try removing it for a while and see if any of your problems lessen.
 
elgrecomac said:
Let me predicate this thread by saying I own a MBP and I bought 4 iphones for my family and myself in July. With that out of the way, here goes:

Lie #1
1. "3G is so much better than Edge". My response to that is 'Bull Sheet'. Period. I live in San Diego and I, nor my wife for that matter, have ever experienced the promised thruput of 3G. And my brother up in the Bay Area has the same complaint. And the false advertising of those iphone commercials on TV with screens snapping from one web site to another is, well, Bull Sheet, and are as misleading about 'speed' as McCain or Obama infomercials are about their capabilities. :eek:

2. "The touch keyboard is terrific". Where to I begin....it just flat out sucks. If, again, having bought 4 of these phone and ALL family member are complaining about it, we just may be onto something. Apple is known for great products, great designing, great ergonomics but the kids in Cupertino needed to check there egos at the door on this one. If you text or send emails with some frequency, you will eventually LEARN how to type with the psuedo-keyboard but never with the speed or accuracy of a real keyboard. It is, perhaps the BIGGEST and most glaring fault with the iphone. I just played with the new Android phone and it, like a crackberry, has a GREAT keyboard, which is much easier to use than the iphone. I was typing much faster on the Andriod after 5 minutes than my iphone after 3 months...and with MUCH fewer errors.

Biggest Gap(s): Flash and Cut and Paste. Come on, this is absolute Bull Sheet. This is 2008, not 1988. And when someone came along and created an out of the box solution for cut and paste, Apple squashed it immediately.
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I know I'm going to get flamed, but, folks, the Emperor is wearing new clothes, just open your eyes.
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i agree with everything you say.

i still love my iphone and it's great for private and fun use. in that field it's the best out there.

but i recommended my girlfriend to get a blackberry because she needs it more professionally. add to that the unreliability of mobileme.
 
elgrecomac said:
having bought 4 of these phone
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You should have thought about your complaints before purchasing phones #2, #3 and #4. And if you purchased all 4 at the same time, you should have taken some time to play with the demos in the store.
 
I tell so many people this..... now you.

You had the choice to wait, read reviews and figure out if its good. ANY electronic over $100 you should check a review out before purchase. if you don't, thats your fault.

"lie #1" - Actually, if you check it out, theres a video that shows the difference. But if you have 2 bars in 3G in comparison to FULL bars in edge, you might not see a huge difference.

"lie #2" - I have found it the best way to type. I always type sideways, then its a huge keyboard. You just have to learn it. Hell, it was so good that blackberry is copying them, and the CEO of that company doesn't even like touchpad tech!


I agree is all opinion, and if you don't like the phone then good for you :) Get another phone if you don't like it so much.

Just don't complain when you had FULL opportunity to read reviews, go to an apple/cingular store to test it out BEFORE purchase.


Sorry you don't like it.
 
twist2b said:
I tell so many people this..... now you.

You had the choice to wait, read reviews and figure out if its good. ANY electronic over $100 you should check a review out before purchase. if you don't, thats your fault.


I agree is all opinion, and if you don't like the phone then good for you :) Get another phone if you don't like it so much.
Just don't complain when you had FULL opportunity to read reviews, go to an apple/cingular store to test it out BEFORE purchase. Sorry you don't like it.
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+1 ^^^ Definitely needed to do some homework, or searched the MR Forums sooner...:(
 
some people will pick up the touch screen, others may never pick it up. it's a matter of perception in that regard.

more importantly, it's the fact that it is the only way to achieve screen size and sleekness of design. People may find blackberries easier to type on, but they will never have the display quality of the iphone. the G1 tries to do both, have a bigger screen with a physical keyboard, but it's thicker and you also have the trade off of the bulk at the right side of the keyboard and flipping it open and closed instead of having the keyboard pop up automatically. it's a matter of preference, but you can't have both. the touch keyboard is worth the tradeoff in my book, so i suck it up and learn how to type better on it.
 
i dont have an iphone but i have an ipod touch and it took time to get used to typing but i type like a monster on that thing i type bettor on my sidekick but my thumbs start to hurt on the ipod touch it dosent
 
southernpaws said:
some people will pick up the touch screen, others may never pick it up. it's a matter of perception in that regard.

more importantly, it's the fact that it is the only way to achieve screen size and sleekness of design. People may find blackberries easier to type on, but they will never have the display quality of the iphone. the G1 tries to do both, have a bigger screen with a physical keyboard, but it's thicker and you also have the trade off of the bulk at the right side of the keyboard and flipping it open and closed instead of having the keyboard pop up automatically. it's a matter of preference, but you can't have both. the touch keyboard is worth the tradeoff in my book, so i suck it up and learn how to type better on it.
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Couldn't agree more
 
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