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Closingracer

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The ultra wide is great in day light or bright areas but in dark rooms or at night I find it’s the inferior camera of the 3. I try to not use it at all in dark settings. Here’s a comparison between the three in a movie auditorium ( before even the trailers so no worry about annoying people lol)



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now i see it

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That's because a quality ultra wide angle lens needs to be built like this one to make high quality photographs. Last time I checked, it wouldn't fit on an iPhone

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alpi123

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Or maybe increase sensor size/pixel size? It took them 3 years to up the telephoto's aperture, hope it doesn't take as long to match all lenses' quality.
 

Closingracer

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That's because a quality ultra wide angle lens needs to be built like this one to make high quality photographs. Last time I checked, it wouldn't fit on an iPhone

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2.4 isn’t worth it. I just wish it was at least 2.0 tbh. Never asked for high end just a bigger aperture. Similar to the telephoto and wide angle lens
 

Closingracer

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Or maybe increase sensor size/pixel size? It took them 3 years to up the telephoto's aperture, hope it doesn't take as long to match all lenses' quality.

Increasing pixel size isn’t that big of a deal on a smartphone. Huwaei has bigger mp cameras but the pixel 4 and iPhone 11 Pro take better overall shots
 

cynics

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The degradation of quality (sharpness) would likely move too far into the frame to ignore if the ultra wide angle had a wider aperture than f2.4. Keep in mind the overall depth with a wide angle when narrowing the focal length.

It will bring in some noise but you can adjust exposure by tapping the screen and sliding the brightness (exposure) indicator up and down.
 

alpi123

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Increasing pixel size isn’t that big of a deal on a smartphone. Huwaei has bigger mp cameras but the pixel 4 and iPhone 11 Pro take better overall shots
It does make a difference. The Huawei has got big DoF compared to other smartphones, and I'd take that + Apple's processing. Low light photos would also be improved.
 

ToddH

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The ultra wide is great in day light or bright areas but in dark rooms or at night I find it’s the inferior camera of the 3. I try to not use it at all in dark settings. Here’s a comparison between the three in a movie auditorium ( before even the trailers so no worry about annoying people lol)

the fix or work around for the UWA camera in darker locations is an app call Nightcap. You will need a tripod or mini tripod to take long exposures. It never over exposes, it just stacks a lot of images for a noise free shot. I usually take up to 30 seconds with it and then process that final image and sharpen it. If you don’t mind using a tabletop tripod, it’s a great app.


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the fix or work around for the UWA camera in darker locations is an app call Nightcap. You will need a tripod or mini tripod to take long exposures. It never over exposes, it just stacks a lot of images for a noise free shot. The ISO, and focus, WB etc can be manually adjusted. I usually take up to 30 seconds with it and then process that final image and sharpen it. If you don’t mind using a tabletop tripod, it’s a great app.
 
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