I think it's time to consolidate our complaints and begin waiting for those of us unimpressed. I want something that will actually "wow" me when I empty my $2500 onto Apple's floor. Sandy Bridge seems to be that, I guess. I posted this further down, but figured it'd make a good opener. Why I'm not buying the Arrandale MBP: I just want Apple to be cutting edge again and not months behind with average tech and zero advancements. IPS display is missing. Nvidia graphics rub me the wrong way, they're using the same core as my 8600M that is defective and has failed on me once already...from 2007. ATI is truly showing advancement with commitment to actually developing new technology. No unibody design freshening: at my college, I can see about 300 15 inch unibody MBPs every day. I like having unique and different things. I also wish they did some sort of a modern industrial design rather than something that looks kid friendly. Lack of USB 3 or any other new interface tech whatsoever. Not entirely Apple's fault, but there just haven't been any good advancements towards this either, and I feel odd dropping almost three grand on a computer that will be shadowed by actually new tech next year(which isn't always true, my late 07 MBP is pretty much the same tech-wise as the late 09 MBPs. Nothing big has changed.) It still has an optical drive, and nothing advanced, at that. I believe Apple should be the one to push the Optical drive out and into an external casing like the Macbook Air has. It just takes up way too much space for the average amount of use it gets. Whether Apple includes an external superdrive with the MBP or not, it needs to get the hell out. Imagine what could be directly applied to that space? there's enough space there to extend the battery life to 14 hours, add a second hard drive or SSD(optibay can do this), more cooling for higher TDP chips, or an overall thinner and lighter computer. Apple completely threw out innovation for macs and seems to be entirely focusing on the consumer mobile space, leaving their notebooks and stuff in the dust. Not that I hate the iPad, as this is being typed on one and I'm loving it, but they really are neglecting their computers. The news with 10.7 development slowing because of iphone OS is scary. We have been on a Leopard variant for a long ass time. Everything is advancing so slowly. I'm hoping my Summer 07 MBP holds for another year.