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The upcoming iPhone is the REAL iPhone 4!
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You have to remember that everyone on MR knows the facts when it comes to upcoming Apple products
Not EVERYONE. It's apparent that many of the people replying to this particular thread do not.
3G was far more than a year old before Apple implemented it in the iPhone. 4G chipsets are battery hogs at the moment. Look at reviews for the phones, I believe one of HTC's phones has had to have a battery increase before its launch or they stood to having to offer an additional battery with every phone it was that bad. The tech is still in its infancy, whereas at the time the iPhone came out 3G was not, so Apple will want to see if the market takes to it and that the chips and good (and cheap) enough to put into one of the future iPhones.
Yes, clearly the 80% who want a bigger screen in your poll means everyone.
hypocrite much?
I don't really see any carrier ready for 4G. And I don't really saw 4G phones one year ago. If you are fooled by calling HSPA+ 4G, than that's your thing. Technically, this is 3G, or 3.5G if you like. But as the iPad 2 didn't ship with HSPA+, chances are little for the iPhone 5.
However, AT&T is pretty much finished rolling HSPA+ out, Apple might consider that.
While surfing, you don't really feel the difference between HSDPA and HSPA+ anyways, as the latency is higher.
On the other hand you can reach your 1GB data cap in 80 seconds with the 100MBit/s peak download rate of LTE. After that, you're with good ol' EDGE anyways. For me, it's first the real 3G flat rate that matters. Once any carrier in the world can do this, it should think about increasing the speed. Anything else is BS. If the carriers wouldn't have in-house DSL/FTTH/DOCSIS, this would be first priority. I hope there's going to be LTE soon though, so VDSL goes away for good and carriers don't hesitate to offer real flat rates. All that blocks progressions there are the $$$ that come in from traditional phone lines, I doubt that there are any technical reasons at all.
Edit: Vodafone Germany give a good example of LTE. We can expect our cap to raise to 30GB. With their "up to 50MBit/s" statement, that gives us a whooping 1.5 hours of full speed downloading. That's an improvement, huh?
I hope this model will make it outside of Kansas City and eliminates the need for inner city mobile internet all together with WiFi+VoIP.
Expect it for the iPhone 6, given the chipsets improve. Even though LTE comes in 326MBit/s and 172MBit/s flavor (and with a peak download rate of 100MBit/s), and this is faster than your VDSL or cable line, this is still not 4G. ITU stated 1GBit/s peak(!) downlink as a requirement for 4G. (As no carrier achieve this, they just rebrand whatever they like to 4G).
However, AT&T is pretty much finished rolling HSPA+ out, Apple might consider that.
While surfing, you don't really feel the difference between HSDPA and HSPA+ anyways, as the latency is higher.
On the other hand you can reach your 1GB data cap in 80 seconds with the 100MBit/s peak download rate of LTE. After that, you're with good ol' EDGE anyways. For me, it's first the real 3G flat rate that matters. Once any carrier in the world can do this, it should think about increasing the speed. Anything else is BS. If the carriers wouldn't have in-house DSL/FTTH/DOCSIS, this would be first priority. I hope there's going to be LTE soon though, so VDSL goes away for good and carriers don't hesitate to offer real flat rates. All that blocks progressions there are the $$$ that come in from traditional phone lines, I doubt that there are any technical reasons at all.
Edit: Vodafone Germany give a good example of LTE. We can expect our cap to raise to 30GB. With their "up to 50MBit/s" statement, that gives us a whooping 1.5 hours of full speed downloading. That's an improvement, huh?
I hope this model will make it outside of Kansas City and eliminates the need for inner city mobile internet all together with WiFi+VoIP.
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Not necessarily... iPhone4 got an updated modem with HSUPA support even though the iPad 1 got stuck with the 3G/3GS modem with it dismal 384kbit upload
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I originally posted this in another similar thread but here is what my predictions are:
I think the OP had a great post and eventually probably most of what you wish will happen, but Apple is all about incremental improvements. Below is a quick list of what I think is likely what will happen. Before I get to that let me say, I have a friend that works in the industry at RIM who is very knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the industry. When I asked him a few months ago if 4G was possible by June on iPhone he kind of laughed it off and said "Yeah maybe if they waited until this fall but summer it would make them look stupid." Sure enough a few months later we are getting a lot of these rumors that Apple may actually be waiting until September which makes more sense. Here is just my quick list of predictions:
-iPhone "4G" or "5" as the likely branding.
-4G capable with a base price of $200
-Comes in 2 main flavors on Verizon, AT&T, possibly Sprint (as could be another reason waiting until fall) at $200 32GB, $300 64GB (or 16/32 I say the memory bump would be a 50/50 thing honestly) with black or white
-iPhone 4 now only 16GB (or 8GB) at $100 on both Verizon and AT&T
-Cosmetically little will change
-Main feature Apple will focus on most is the camera, 4G, and Facetime over network, and the fact that it will do it over any network and device. Due to 4G they may raise the fees again.
-The camera on the back at least will greatly improve being the 9MP Sony sensor rumored/confirmed possibly with 1080P
-4' screen could happen but it would have to not sacrifice the industrial design, and would have to scale in accordance with applications from developers.
-Innards will consist of the same graphics and cpu as iPad 2 with a 1Ghz dual core. Memory however will be bumped to 1GB (just as was the case with iPad 1 being 256MB ram, iPhone 4 being 512MB, etc)
As for iOS5 I dunno. I would suspect something to do with the cloud, better push, better notification system, a "personalized" Home screen similar to Android but done in a very Apple way. Perhaps more improvements towards true multitasking, I would suspect an "Apple TV app" could be in the works. An adapter and/or compatibility with Thunderbolt as well.
I originally posted this in another similar thread but here is what my predictions are:
I think the OP had a great post and eventually probably most of what you wish will happen, but Apple is all about incremental improvements. Below is a quick list of what I think is likely what will happen. Before I get to that let me say, I have a friend that works in the industry at RIM who is very knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the industry. When I asked him a few months ago if 4G was possible by June on iPhone he kind of laughed it off and said "Yeah maybe if they waited until this fall but summer it would make them look stupid." Sure enough a few months later we are getting a lot of these rumors that Apple may actually be waiting until September which makes more sense. Here is just my quick list of predictions:
-iPhone "4G" or "5" as the likely branding.
-4G capable with a base price of $200
-Comes in 2 main flavors on Verizon, AT&T, possibly Sprint (as could be another reason waiting until fall) at $200 32GB, $300 64GB (or 16/32 I say the memory bump would be a 50/50 thing honestly) with black or white
-iPhone 4 now only 16GB (or 8GB) at $100 on both Verizon and AT&T
-Cosmetically little will change
-Main feature Apple will focus on most is the camera, 4G, and Facetime over network, and the fact that it will do it over any network and device. Due to 4G they may raise the fees again.
-The camera on the back at least will greatly improve being the 9MP Sony sensor rumored/confirmed possibly with 1080P
-4' screen could happen but it would have to not sacrifice the industrial design, and would have to scale in accordance with applications from developers.
-Innards will consist of the same graphics and cpu as iPad 2 with a 1Ghz dual core. Memory however will be bumped to 1GB (just as was the case with iPad 1 being 256MB ram, iPhone 4 being 512MB, etc)
As for iOS5 I dunno. I would suspect something to do with the cloud, better push, better notification system, a "personalized" Home screen similar to Android but done in a very Apple way. Perhaps more improvements towards true multitasking, I would suspect an "Apple TV app" could be in the works. An adapter and/or compatibility with Thunderbolt as well.
So do I, wherever he got his speculation.
They might have to break down and give us a physical camera button of some kind.
This is probably the single biggest advantage (for me) that other devices have over the iPhone 4. I mean, I'm certainly not dumping my iPhone for the Zeiss optics of a Nokia N8, but it's very hard to take pictures as good on the iPhone, mostly because it's hard to stay focused and on target and use the firmware camera button.
