We got 5 to 9 weeks for either w/o 3g or with. It would be nice while we wait that Apple have the iPhone 4 os ready and present it. Plus it would not if Steve could say one more thing and present a docking station for the ipad or that it slides in to become a convertible MacBook Pro. It would slide in since the docking is by the home button. Once docked, it becomes the mbp. When undocked, it's the iPad. We would get the best of both world!!