The year old Google Pixel 2 camera still beating iPhone XS

ray6712

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It’s subjective nearly all youtube reviewers prefer Android over IPhone anyways do there more than biased, In every comparison I’ve seen it’s been so freaking close it was to hard to tell!

I’m speaking on the IPhone X not the Xs
 

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I haven't gotten the Max yet, but my X and Pixel 2 pics were both about the same. Pixel has the advantage in lowlight. I should add my Note 9 produces as good photos as those two, however I'd rank the lowlight performance as Pixel 2, Note 9, X.

All the top tier smartphones have really great cameras now. I don't know how they decide one beats the other but you'd have to work pretty hard to get a completely crappy shot now with any of 'em.
 

Tig Bitties

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iPhone's finally being seen for what they are, over priced average smartphone, but with juggernaut marketing and brainwashing.

Stock Google is hands down the best smartphone OS today. The Pixel 3 XL the best smartphone of 2018. Notch and all.
 

GrumpyMom

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When it comes to the lighting conditions the sample photos depict, Pixel 2 Camera didn’t have too many areas in which improvements are needed, so it’s not surprising the IPhone isn’t exactly burying it.

However, I do think by being set up as a comparison, the iPhone photos finally did manage to expose a couple of areas in which the Pixel 2 camera could be improved and we will possibly see those addressed by the Pixel 3.

One, in the pixel 2 photo, contrast is too strong and details were almost obliterated in the shadows of the picture of the plant on the desk. Two: hard to tell without seeing the original, but I know from my own Pixel 2 that at times the white balance in indoor lighting can be very cold or very cat pee. In other words a very odd shade of yellow. It’s often tough to get a middle ground and I have to make manual adjustments.

In the photo of the corridor, the lighting looked very stark and harsh with very heavy contrast and, as one of the commenters pointed out, the blacks were crushed. I would have loved to have seen what it really looked like. iPhone almost romanticized the lighting in that corridor.

Their photos of the street scene were not a fair comparison. It was raining when the iPhone shot was taken and clear when the Pixel photo was taken. The rain made the scene look hazy. Which it probably was. It’s just not as flattering a scene as the photo in which the rain has stopped. Also the iPhone photo appears to be zoomed in. We’re not seeing a comparison of the same wide angled views.

Assuming Google doesn’t take any accidental steps backwards, the Pixel 3 camera should be an absolute monster! Now if only I could muster up more faith in the rest of the phone. I have to hope it’s all going to come together for them this year.
 

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The pixel 2 does have a fantastic camera no doubt about it. The Huawei P20 Pro also shoots some amazing shots. I would argue it's low light abilities are even better then the pixel 2. Both are fantastic devices. I'm happy with my Note 8 even if the camera is not as amazing. Looking forward to the pixel 3 reviews.
 
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Macalicious2011

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I'm not surprised Google have beaten Apple. They are an algorithm company. Even when comparing Google Assistant to Siri, Apple are 3-4 years behind Google with no signs of catching up.

This is just the beginning. I would expect the Pixel 3 and Pixel 4 to also be ahead of whatever Apple offers.


Which one is better is highly subjective. But the point is all flagships nowadays take great photos. Even for the not-so-great-ones, editing is just a few taps away.
Editing is time consuming and majority of people can't do it right.

Nothing is sweater than photos that look brilliant and alive. You can take photos blind with the Pixel and they will look. No need to worry about blury shots, white balance etc.


I don’t get this obsession with cameras. You’d think everyone is a Pulitzer Prize winning photographer.
A lot of R&D goes into cameras in smartphones and you are paying for it. If you don't care about camera output you might as well save your money by sticking with a 3-4 year old phone.

Having a phone that takes amazing photos gives you peace of mind when shooting and saves you the trouble of carrying a DSLR or compact camera for important occasions like birthdays, holidays etc.
 

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Editing is time consuming and majority of people can't do it right.

Nothing is sweater than photos that look brilliant and alive. You can take photos blind with the Pixel and they will look. No need to worry about blury shots, white balance etc.

A lot of R&D goes into cameras in smartphones and you are paying for it. If you don't care about camera output you might as well save your money by sticking with a 3-4 year old phone.

Having a phone that takes amazing photos gives you peace of mind when shooting and saves you the trouble of carrying a DSLR or compact camera for important occasions like birthdays, holidays etc.
Editing is time consuming? What OS are you using, Windows Mobile? Nearly any photo apps have near one-touch quick fix nowadays. Even teenagers can snap their pics, edit them, and post them on social media in a snap, and they don't have a lot of patience.

Don't be so sensitive. Nobody's saying your Pixel 2 take bad pictures. Everybody knows it takes good pictures. But the incremental difference in quality between all the flagships today are highly subjective.
 
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Macalicious2011

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Editing is time consuming? What OS are you using, Windows Mobile? Nearly any photo apps have near one-touch quick fix nowadays. Even teenagers can snap their pics, edit them, and post them on social media in a snap, and they don't have a lot of patience.
A one click "auto"-editing button rarely does a good job. I would call choosing an Instagram or facebook filter that blows up lights or over-saturates colours editing. Try applying the same filters to photos taken in different light conditions and you'll see what I mean.

This is the point about the Pixel 2. It takes editing out of the equation. You don't need to think about it. Last year I had a paid photographer on my daughter's birthday. He shoot and edited photos. This year I simply used my Pixel 2 and got amazing result - even for portrait shoots.

I showed the photos to the photographer and he bought a Pixel a few weeks later.

If the Pixel 2's output was just "incrementally" or "subjectively" better then tech reviewers wouldn't reference it a year later against phones that cost nearly twice as much.
 
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Shanghaichica

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Too bad the Pixel has mediocre to bad everything else. Even the OS gets a shrug from me.
That’s the problem for me. The camera is great but the hardware is lacking and you can get the google assistant on any phone.
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The pixel 2 does have a fantastic camera no doubt about it. The Huawei P20 Pro also shoots some amazing shots. I would argue it's low light abilities are even better then the pixel 2. Both are fantastic devices. I'm happy with my Note 8 even if the camera is not as amazing. Looking forward to the pixel 3 reviews.
I thought the camera on the note 8 was pretty good. I got some nice shots from it when I had it.
 
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GrumpyMom

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The secret sauce is still definitely us. I’ve gotten so in tune with my S9+ I’m getting incredible photos and videos from it. I also got some horribly awful ones but it’s been a learning process. I am shooting in manual mode to get the most challenging night scenes, but learning how to position yourself advantageously with available light sources and angles and distances can really help with auto mode, too.

My daughter took a one day photography session in Philadelphia with a pro photographer who taught her how to shoot street scenes using just whatever cell phone cameras or point and shoots the students had with them and came back with breathtaking photos, including one of a pigeon in mid flight over a statue.

It was shot on an iPhone SE! She learned to keep her eyes open and her reflexes at the ready to get a shot like that.
 

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That’s the problem for me. The camera is great but the hardware is lacking and you can get the google assistant on any phone.
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I thought the camera on the note 8 was pretty good. I got some nice shots from it when I had it.
The Note 8 does have a nice camera but it is not nearly as nice as the P20 Pro. Especially the forward facing camera. The P20 Pro produces shots that can rival some DSLR units. The only issue I had with the phone is that there is no US warranty and this makes it a hard sell at $800 so I returned it. It's battery life was also incredible. GSM only and you can buy off Amazon. Excellent phone and I honestly miss it.
 
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epicrayban

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I don’t get this obsession with cameras.
Ask Apple.

Each year, they dedicate a portion of their presentation to talking and hyping up the iPhone's camera prowess. They also remind us that it's the most popular smartphone camera. On the iPhone website, there's an entire tab and page just for the camera. They have a huge marketing campaign called "Shot on iPhone." And even have dedicated videos on how to shoot on an iPhone.
 
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jamezr

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That's kind of the point though isn't it? Truly great cameras can make certain folks look like a skilled photographer, even if they have no technical knowledge of photography.
My thoughts too....I just want to point and shoot and get great shots! I don't want to have to tweak it or enhance the pics. The Pixel 2 camera is the best this right now. Can't wait to see what the Pixel 3 camera can do!
 

jamezr

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Right! A lot of folks are overwhelmed by DSLR cameras. These smartphones are so good now that you just point, shoot and let the algorithms do the work for you. That's why there's so much hype around camera improvements every year.
exactly.... as a consumer...i want the technology to work for me. Not the other way around.....i want technology to make up for my mistakes and environmental changes to get great shots!
 

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Considering the price of the iPhone XS even if it takes great pictures it should have beaten every smartphone camera in the industry which wasn't the case.
 

Michael Goff

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Considering the price of the iPhone XS even if it takes great pictures it should have beaten every smartphone camera in the industry which wasn't the case.
Counterpoint: Considering how much it costs, the Pixel 2 XL shouldn't have had bad everything else.
 
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