Themes with out using winterboard.

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by anschnaller, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. anschnaller macrumors member

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    Is ther a way to apply ur themes without using winterboard. Although winterboard is a great app. It takes up to much ram and slows down my iPhone to much for me. So I would like to know if there is something else or if there is a way to edit the firmware and make the themselves perment. I am mainly looking to change the GUI. I really don't care about the rest. Any info u can through my way would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. bytethese macrumors 68030

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    You could always change things manually via SSH/SCP, but I have never seen Winterboard slow an iPhone down. :)
     
  3. ozzyman500 macrumors 65816

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    I used to do this. Some of the icons I can't stand so I went in and changed them without Winterboard. It's pretty easy if you know where the icons are located.
     
  4. anschnaller thread starter macrumors member

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    i found out if u have a lot of themes or at least GUI themes running at a time my phone slowed down considerably. I know how to ssh into my phone but what i am looking for is the location of the GUI files such as the buttons and menus etc. that is what i really want to change i am sick of the stupid blue. thanks for the responses.
     
  5. bytethese macrumors 68030

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    I'd suggest not using themes that change every little detail I suppose. :)

    Personally, I create my own themes and edit existing ones appropriately. I used this site:
    http://www.hackthatphone.com/3x/themes_with_winterboard.html

    To teach me file locations, etc. Good luck!
     
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  7. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    That's going to be a nightmare to do manually (some things, like the wallpaper, can't be done manually. Your best bet is WinterBoard and WinterBoard Settings. Not to mention its REALLY easy to screw up your phone if you are changing things at that level.

    If you have a bunch of separate themes running simultaneously try combining them into one.

    Beyond that you just have to accept that if you want to do extensive theming either upgrade to the GS or deal with some slowdown. Changing OS graphics with WB will give more lag than just icons.
     
  8. ViViDboarder macrumors 68040

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    Anything you can do in winterboard you can do without it. I use SSH exclusively and even just posted a thread on how to use LockInfo without Winterboard as well.

    If you open up a .theme file you can generally see where each file is intended to belong. Then you just SSH or use MobileTerminal/iFile to place them in the right spots.

    ALWAYS backup files before replacing them.

    I like keeping my phone fairly stock, so I only swap out a couple icons and the battery charge image (I like the one that shows %s) and then I now use LockInfo. All without Winterboard.

    I know people say "it doesn't slow down a phone" Well, it does. With winterboard my memory tends to be around 7mb free and now I've regained about 15mb. Dunno why it would be so serious, I quess I removed a couple MobileSubstrate plugins with it.

    Short end of the story, YES. Winterboard DOES use more ram than SSH themes.
     
  9. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    How do you manually put a wallpaper behind the icons?
     
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    I've seen some lag but what I've really seen is it destroy the battery.
     
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    Then you obviously haven't seen my 3GS. ;)

    You can use BossPaper to do that.

    It's possible, I used to do it. However, I can't remember how I did it and would love for someone to refresh my memory! In any case, it can be done - have you tried Google?
     
  14. HighLife420 macrumors 6502a

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    yes, i keep coming up with solutions using winterboard.
     
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    I don't have winterboard any more, but can't you remove it buy using that? :confused:
     
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  17. ViViDboarder macrumors 68040

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    Actually you can. It's one of the default things that come with Winterboard I thought. Or maybe I have it left over from a previous version. :/
     
  18. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    The original statement was that you can do anything manually that you can with WB. Obviously that is not true since BP is not doing it manually.

    I'm still waiting for ViViDboarder to chime in with how you do wallpapers manually.
     
  19. HighLife420 macrumors 6502a

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    trying to figure this out without winterboard.....as per the thread title.
     
  20. ViViDboarder macrumors 68040

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    Wow... Looks like this may be one of the few things that just can't be done. There has to be a way though, maybe I'll email Saurik and see if he knows the location a file needs to be placed.

    As an alternative, BossPaper is much less intensive than Winterboard as it only does one thing. It also has some very nice features. I don't actually use it though. I'm crying at the fact that I already have 9 MobileSubstrate plugins :(

    60 Sec Lockscreen (For LockInfo)
    Backgrounder
    ClockHide (For LockInfo)
    LockInfo
    MailToAttachement (For iFile)
    PreferenceLoader
    PrivaCy
    StatusNotifier
    and libhide (For Categories and SBSettings)
     
  21. anschnaller thread starter macrumors member

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    i am trying to limit my mobilesubstrate addons amuch as possible that is the main reason i go ride of WB. i am down to 5. i have located most of the files that i need to change i/e chat bubbles and other message stuff. but i cant find where all the UIimages are stashed.
    i am using a winter board theme and i am taking it apart and putting the pieces were they belong. I just can find all the locations for all the files.
    com.apple.MediaPlayer
    com.apple.mobileipod
    com.apple.TelephonyUI
    UIImages
    these are the only ones i still have to hunt down.


    have already found these ones
    ChatKit.framework
    MediaPlayer.framework
    MessageUI.framework
    com.apple.springboard
    com.apple.mobilesafari
    com.apple.mobilecal
    com.apple.Maps
     
  22. ViViDboarder macrumors 68040

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    Sure, most are in /System/Library/CoreServices/Springboard.app/

    What images in particular?
     
  23. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    What about installing NetaTalk? Wouldn't you be able to search your iPhone as a mounted AppleTalk device?


    Anyone know what PreferenceLoader does?


    I'm running a bunch of MSs, and four of them are just related to my lockscreen. LOL.

    LockInfo
    20secLockscreen
    ClockHide
    QuickDismiss

    Backgrounder
    Kirikae

    MailToAttachment
    MobileStack
    PreferenceLoader
    PrivaCy
    RotationInhibitor
    SBCustomIcon (off)
    Unrestrictor
    WinterBoard
    libhide
     
  24. ViViDboarder macrumors 68040

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    com.apple.MediaPlayer /Applications/MobileMusicPlayer/
    com.apple.mobileipod /Applications/MobileMusicPlayer/ Should be the same. I think this folder is if someone had an iPod Touch
    com.apple.TelephonyUI /Applications/MobilePhone.app
    UIImages Like I said, usually in the Springboard.app folder. What UIImages are you trying to find?

    A tip: Install NetATalk so you can view the whole root system as a network drive on your mac and then just search the filesystem for the image name you want to find :D I suppose you can use MobileTerminal and grep as well.
     
  25. anschnaller thread starter macrumors member

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    com.apple.mobileipod /Applications/MobileMusicPlayer/ was the same but com.apple.MediaPlayer /Applications/MobileMusicPlayer/ was not i could not find any of the same files
    MovieTransportBackground-ChapterButton.png
    MovieTransportBackground-Chapters.png
    MovieTransportBackground-long.png
    MovieTransportBackground.png
    MusicVolumeKnob.png
    NowPlayingBottomOverlay.png
    VolumeBlueCap.png
    VolumeBlueFill.png
    VolumeBlueTrack.png
    VolumeWhiteMusicCap.png
    VolumeWhiteMusicFill.png
    VolumeWhiteTrack.png
     

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