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Theory: future iPhones

liledd

liledd

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Jul 12, 2011
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Ok so here I go, I want to know if anyone else agrees..I think In the future they are willing to eliminate of all ports and buttons on iPhone and iPad. If they are removing the home button on the iPhone 8, then remove the silent/mute switch, does anybody else not use it as much anymore? Implement it in software. I think they will eventually in a few years eliminate the charging port, because of wireless charging and everybody will have wireless headphones by then. Incredibly, in theory, if they are investing to bring the Digital Crown to the iPhones and iPads, they will remove the volume buttons and lock button, implement it in sideways somehow so we can use it for volume and push in to lock the screen. Apple is usually great at hardware and quality so its not going to be cheap looking. Ultimately, they will have no buttons or ports besides the crown and it'll be VERY WATERPROOF, and they can get it slimmer, add more battery and improve the devices all around.
 
joeblow7777 said:
I use the silent/mute switch all the time. It's incredibly convenient to be able to turn my ringer on or off easily, without even needing to look at my phone. But then again, I also like having a headphone jack, so what do I know? I'm obviously living in the past. :rolleyes:
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Well…I'm there with you. Only I have a couple of jailbreak tweaks attached to it so when I mute my iPhone I also enter DND mode and silence all ALARMS as well. So, if you're living in the past…I'm ancient! :)
 
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I kind of like having the ability to do certain functions without having to focus too much on looking at the phone like when I forget to put the phone on mute when I am in a meeting and the phone goes off. I also work at night and in the field so the external controls are nice for me. However, with Apple going the way they seem to be with simplifying the iPhone I can see that possibly happening.
 
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Pakaku said:
Even Apple isn't that insane.
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That's what others said when the idea arose when the 3.5 Jack wouldn't be deleted. We saw the end result of that. (Which I was fine with.) If Apple simplified the further away from external hardware, I could see this happening for less issues and or future water proofing.
 
ardchoille50 said:
They will need to retain some form of hardware button(s) in order to enter DFU mode, wouldn't they?
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I think by the time when this all happens, DFU mode will be obsolete. I'm not sure of the significance of DFU mode besides restoring or jailbreaking, but if Apple really doesn't like jailbreak they would remove DFU. If Apple needs to get the iPhone in DFU mode then they can create a switch at the Genius Bar. I haven't had to go into DFU mode for a long ass time. Although I'm on beta updates so I will never be able to jailbreak as long as I have that on, which will be forever.
 
liledd said:
I think by the time when this all happens, DFU mode will be obsolete. I'm not sure of the significance of DFU mode besides restoring or jailbreaking, but if Apple really doesn't like jailbreak they would remove DFU. If Apple needs to get the iPhone in DFU mode then they can create a switch at the Genius Bar. I haven't had to go into DFU mode for a long ass time. Although I'm on beta updates so I will never be able to jailbreak as long as I have that on, which will be forever.
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You have the wrong idea about what dfu restore mode is and does.
Dfu mode hasn't been used to jailbreak an iphone since over 5-6 years. You don't need dfu to jailbreak a device.
 
Applejuiced said:
You have the wrong idea about what dfu restore mode is and does.
Dfu mode hasn't been used to jailbreak an iphone since over 5-6 years. You don't need dfu to jailbreak a device.
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Oh ok. I wouldn't know. Haven't done it in years, but it wasn't that long. I'm not quite sure for why consumers would need the DFU mode then. I haven't had to restore through iTunes due to a crash since iOS 6 days, but that's my wrong idea I guess?
 
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liledd said:
Oh ok. I wouldn't know. Haven't done it in years, but it wasn't that long. I'm not quite sure for why consumers would need the DFU mode then. I haven't had to restore through iTunes due to a crash since iOS 6 days, but that's my wrong idea I guess?
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It's a hardware procedure to enter the device in restore mode.
It's done to wipe the device clean and reinstall the os when the device gets stuck in a boot loop or cannot restore via iTunes on its own.
 
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I see this theory used a lot, but I don't see any evidence to support it.

It's all linked into good design, and design isn't how something looks but how it works. People seem to forget that.

Physical buttons are objectively better at some tasks. Adjusting the volume of music, or activating silent mode, or turning the phone off/on.

Just because having no buttons on a phone will look nice and neat, doesn't mean it's a better solution.

Apple knows this, the first iPod Touch didn't feature physical volume buttons. The buttons were added one year later after complaints from users. Physical buttons for volume control is a better solution than software controls.
 
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jabingla2810 said:
I see this theory used a lot, but I don't see any evidence to support it.

It's all linked into good design, and design isn't how something looks but how it works. People seem to forget that.

Physical buttons are objectively better at some tasks. Adjusting the volume of music, or activating silent mode, or turning the phone off/on.

Just because having no buttons on a phone will look nice and neat, doesn't mean it's a better solution.

Apple knows this, the first iPod Touch didn't feature physical volume buttons. The buttons were added one year later after complaints from users. Physical buttons for volume control is a better solution than software controls.
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Well my theory included the Digital Crown and implanting one hardware button for multiple uses. And they can "revolutionize" their volume buttons also because they have a track record of Changing those volume buttons up on every couple generations.
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jabingla2810 said:
I see this theory used a lot, but I don't see any evidence to support it.

It's all linked into good design, and design isn't how something looks but how it works. People seem to forget that.

Physical buttons are objectively better at some tasks. Adjusting the volume of music, or activating silent mode, or turning the phone off/on.

Just because having no buttons on a phone will look nice and neat, doesn't mean it's a better solution.

Apple knows this, the first iPod Touch didn't feature physical volume buttons. The buttons were added one year later after complaints from users. Physical buttons for volume control is a better solution than software controls.
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Well my theory included the Digital Crown and implementing one hardware button for multiple uses. And they can "revolutionize" their volume buttons also because they have a track record of Changing those volume buttons up on every couple generations.
 
I still prefer iPhone 6s generation design and hardware button configuration, although not the best.
There must be some form of buttons installed to prevent device from going haywire without destroying it. This will always be the case even at the time when we can travel to a planet in a moment's notice.
 
I know this doesn't help the thread. But the correct word is hypothesis. It's been driving me up a wall seeing theory used incorrectly.

Hypothesis is a guess. Theory is something that has been backed up by actual evidence that explains a phenomenon.
 
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In my prediction, 1.The home button will be removed, because it occupies too much space on the screen;
2.Siri will become smarter, it will unlock the iphone by your voice order;
3.The iphone can do several things at the same time.
 
The great thing about the mute and volume buttons is that you can use them without looking at the phone.

You can lay in bed at night and change volume while listening to music. You don't need to unlock the phone and dig through the menus to find volume controls.

The same goes for the mute button. Imagine you are in a meeting giving a presentation when one of your goofy ring tones goes off. You try to unlock the phone to find the mute feature. Oops. It has been a few days and iOS wants you to key in your code. Hurry. Oh no. Got it wrong. Try again. Quite a spectacle for the audience to watch. With luck, someone will take a video and you will be a YouTube star for a day.
 
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neutrino23 said:
Imagine you are in a meeting giving a presentation when one of your goofy ring tones goes off. You try to unlock the phone to find the mute feature. Oops. It has been a few days and iOS wants you to key in your code. Hurry. Oh no. Got it wrong. Try again. Quite a spectacle for the audience to watch. With luck, someone will take a video and you will be a YouTube star for a day.
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And just because of this highly imaginary situation, which may effect 0.00001% of all iPhone users, you're suggesting that Apple should keep those physical buttons? ;)
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
I know this doesn't help the thread. But the correct word is hypothesis. It's been driving me up a wall seeing theory used incorrectly.

Hypothesis is a guess. Theory is something that has been backed up by actual evidence that explains a phenomenon.
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Ok Thanks for coming into this thread and correcting one word and not discussing anything about the topic. Anyways there is some 'speculation' supporting the Digital Crown coming to iPhone and iPad. Weather it's rumors or not. I also think apple patented it. I guess I'll use the word speculate.
 
liledd said:
Ok Thanks for coming into this thread and correcting one word and not discussing anything about the topic. Anyways there is some 'speculation' supporting the Digital Crown coming to iPhone and iPad. Weather it's rumors or not. I also think apple patented it. I guess I'll use the word speculate.
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I was more than straight forward in my response saying "I know this doesn't belong here". Hostility really isn't necessary. If you want me to contribute I will.

Apple patented the Digital Crown on a phone/iPad right after the watch was introduced. There are dozens of patents that Apple owns that are not in production. This is merely to prevent competitors from taking their ideas and implementing them how they see fit. Introducing the Digital Crown on the iPhone or iPad would make the device thicker, which isn't what Apple tends to do. If anything I see the elimination of all buttons, but the mute switch and make the switch to solid-state areas for the power and volume buttons, similar to the home button. Years down the road I believe that all buttons won't even be solid-state anymore and will only be touch sensitive, such as the Touch Bar on the MBP.
 
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