theory regarding Mac Pro delay

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by chewky, May 5, 2012.

  1. chewky macrumors newbie

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    I remember reading a while back that Apple was planning on overhauling its entire computer line this summer. What if Apple is waiting to release the new Mac Pro, iMac, MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini all at once? The timing would be perfect. The fact that Apple is considering dropping the 17" MacBook Pro is also indicative that they're working on streamlining their product line to create a strong 'family' of computers. This just makes a lot of sense to me. What do you think?
     
  2. Jst0rm macrumors regular

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    Makes sense. I just wish there was more communication to their pro users. We have made large commitments to their ecosystem and some comes would be nice so we don't get surprise butt sexed.
     
  3. ClassObject macrumors 6502

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    What if chickens fall from the sky and turn hotdogs into cheeseburgers? Seriously this is stupid. Just wait and see.
     
  4. Baytriple macrumors 6502

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    Family? What are you spouting? If you have ever owned a 17 inch you realise they are really quite excellent machines and make the 15 inchers feel like mac book airs.
     
  5. sigmadog macrumors 6502a

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    mmmmm.... cheeseburgers!
     
  6. ClassObject macrumors 6502

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    Seriously. Mmmmnm
     
  7. ixodes macrumors 601

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    I'm far too busy enjoying the Macs I have.

    Oh sure I'm curious what the future holds, but I make my living in the present with the Macs I have. :)
     
  8. Jst0rm macrumors regular

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    So do I. Doesn't mean I'm not ready for a new one.
     
  9. goMac macrumors 603

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    I think they're waiting for Windows 8 to launch because they're switching the entire line to Windows 8, and that doesn't come out until later this year.

    (That's sarcasm, for the sarcasm impaired.)
     
  10. FredT2 macrumors 6502

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    I like it! :)
     
  11. ixodes macrumors 601

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    Oh yeah, that's right.

    Thanks for correcting me I forgot all about that minor change :D
     
  12. strausd macrumors 68030

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    I disagree with that.

    The only way they make a 15 inch feel like a MBA is that it is slightly smaller because of the slightly smaller screen size. Its not thinner and neither of them will feel faster than the other since they use the same components whereas I always feel a speed difference whenever I use a MBA.
     
  13. ValSalva macrumors 68040

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    This delay in the new Macs seems more related to Intel not delivering on time. Apple is probably not too happy about the delay for Ivy Bridge.

    But at this point Apple is in no rush. Ivy Bridge isn't that much better than Sandy Bridge. Macs are selling well. Apple has the luxury of being able to take its time designing and testing new form factors for the entire Mac line.

    Clearly Apple are going to release new Macs, iMacs, MacBook Pros, MacBook Airs, and almost certainly a new Mac Pro. They are working hard on Mountain Lion which will help sell their new Macs. It's doubtful Apple would be working so hard on Mountain Lion if they were not highly committed to keeping the Mac line moving forwards.

    We are very close to WWDC. Apple will probably underpromise and overdeliver with regards to the Mountain Lion release, like they did with Snow Leopard. We will almost certainly see new Macs at WWDC which will ship with free upgrades to Mountain Lion which will come out mid-summer. I doubt we will see any new hardware upgrades before WWDC which is now only about five weeks away.
     
  14. xgman macrumors 601

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    At this point I think it might be what the OP said or it's done. Either that or the OP just put way more thought in to this than Apple ever did. In any case, Apple's current approach leaves a bad taste. I am going to stick with Apple products, and I realize they could care less about my complaining as many of you guys do, but I really don't like the way Apple does business anymore.
     
  15. JavaTheHut macrumors 6502

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    Apple's history seems to always embrace that "Jaw drop effect" first and foremost. Should be an interesting CS6 coming out soon and a new Mac lineup this summer = Sweet!
     
  16. theSeb macrumors 604

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    The 1920x1200 resolution makes quite a difference, in my opinion.
     
  17. strausd macrumors 68030

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    Not enough to make a 15" feel like a MBA, thats a little too ridiculous. Especially when compared to a high res 15" model.
     
  18. -hh macrumors 68020

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    Everything is relative. While I certainly can see how a 15" seems like a MBA versus a 17", I still consider my 15" to be a big bulky machine relative to my old 12" G4 PowerBook.

    -hh
     
  19. johnnymg, May 7, 2012
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    I agree with everything except the part about no new HW before WWDC. I'm expecting either the AIR or MBP release before WWDC. JMO ~~~~

    cheers
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  20. thekev macrumors 604

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    Right there, you're severely lacking in reading comprehension. The rumor of this wasn't even a leak. A tech analyst said he thought it would happen based on his numbers. He didn't provide reference or an estimated margin of error with his numbers. It was just this general design trend essay. Now you're trying to compound your information with that as if it was an established fact rather than the speculation of a single person.
     
  21. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    Both of which are unlikely.

    First, Cook and Apple execs mentioned "late summer" for Mountain Lion in last quarterly results call. It is extremely unlikely Apple is going to move that up. [ Given the front page story about Filevault coughing up passwords in plain text in certain configurations, it would be almost beyond foolish for Apple to cut short they QA cycle on this release. Apple's test coverage on Lion was more than spotty. ]

    Second, it doesn't really make sense to wait to release them all at WWDC. WWDC has more than enough issues to cover (Mountain Lion and iOS6 ). Unless some specific Mac was critical for a ML feature demo there isn't good reason to wait. Since ML is coming late summer it makes sense to get several Mac out the door before the ML "blackout period" begins. Once 4-6 before ML's release date it doesn't really make sense to release 10.7.x delta release when the OS is on immediate verge of being superseded.

    By June, the Quad based competitors of the iMac should be fully on the retail market and several weeks into online sales. There won't be a good reason to sit on those. Even less rational reason to squat on a Mac Pro update until June. [ unless falling backwards to the Xeon E3 which would be a strange move. ]



    By early first week of June, they should be able to do a complete MBP revision. (unless Intel stumbles getting dual Ivy options out the door by June 4th). Again no real good pressing reason to wait.

    Frankly, Apple tends not to do well when the stack up too much to do on a single fixed date. The FUBAR " MobileMe + iOS + iPhone" simultaneous launch several years back.


    There is no big win and piling all of the Mac models into one big dog and pony show. Incrementally releasing over several months gives them not only something new to talk about each month, but evens out unit/revenue numbers so don't have to bubbles in those numbers as much over the long term.
     
  22. xgman macrumors 601

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    You'd think, but March.. nothing, April...nothing, May... well so far zippy. Yes I know about Intel's release schedule.
     
  23. deconstruct60, May 7, 2012
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    You can flap you arms all you want that it isn't but none of Apple major competitors have shipped in volume either.

    Not on Xeon E5's. And last pass through retail stores this weekend not a broad spectrum refresh of mainstream Ivy Bridges models either.

    P.S. For giggles, I checked Dell's site on their '3rd generation Core i" models XPS 8500 models. Right now it reads

    " ... Estimated Ship Date:5/21/2012 ... "

    http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-8500/pd?~ck=mn

    for the whole line up. I'm so sure that Intel has absolutely nothing to do with that date. *cough*
     
  24. 8CoreWhore macrumors 68020

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    No rush for Apple in part because those with 12 cores won't be upgrading for quite a while, and those with less cores have the 12 core to move to.

    Most customers are probably covered with the current line-up.

    Then, naturally Apple would wait for Ivy Bridge... and need time to design around it, test it, etc. Then announce this summer.

    I think Mountain Lion is important for it - so, this summer boys.

    :p
     
  25. xgman macrumors 601

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    I'd settle for 9/21/12 if they would just make some sort of announcement. :mad: It really has been a long time since Apple announced any mac related hardware news. If they are using Mountain Lion as any sort of benchmark for new mac releases, then that really is quite lame based on what I have seen on DP3-4.
     

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