There can be only one...Samsung S5 vs iPhone 6

[jrswizzle]

EDIT: Not worth it. I said I was done, and I mean it.

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less.

Although that statement is somewhat disingenuous, I started out my day not caring.

 

[ravipiero]

Then change your browser. The browser I used the top bar will show once I reverse the scroll direction.

That also works on safari, no need to change browser just for that features.

Like in this forum the latest posts are at the bottom. So you want to move to bottom.

There are also forums with the latest post on the top. So you want to move to the top. What's your point?

Also when you first navigate to a page you are at the top. Then you read down the page....why the heck you want to go back up when you already finished reading that part.

Why the heck you want to go directly to the bottom in the first place? I tried Redmond pie websites and macrumors blog, on the blog post, if you scroll to bottom you have to at least scroll halfway to middle to get to the end of the article. The bottom parts contain footer, comment section, ads, and related article section. And IMO most blogs are that way.
On the other hand you can scroll to top, click on the logo to go to home page to see new or other articles.

Scroll to top works really well in apps (or the Web version) like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Gmail, etc and it makes a lot of sense to go back to up to see whether there are new posts/email, etc.

Really it depends on your usage, and it could differ between each user.

EDIT: Not worth it. I said I was done, and I mean it.

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less.

Although that statement is somewhat disingenuous, I started out my day not caring.

Agree. I'm done with this topic and mib also.

 

[Technarchy]

Tap to top is something I find incredibly valuable, and it irks the hell out of me that android hasn't found its own solution for that task.

 

[Fireblade]

Tap to top is something I find incredibly valuable, and it irks the hell out of me that android hasn't found its own solution for that task.

It's great on IOS for sure, but because of the different scrolling behavior, not necessary on Android.

 

[Technarchy]

It's great on IOS for sure, but because of the different scrolling behavior, not necessary on Android.

Yeah that's nonsense. This isn't anything to do with "scrolling behavior". The 3rd page in this thread takes 8 swipes to return to the top on my S5 That's incredibly tedious for frequent forum peruser.

Many forums, Web pages and apps on general keep persistent navigation content and tools at the top of the app that you'll often want to return to after you get to the bottom. Tap to top is a phenomenal user experience enhancement.

 

[pdqgp]

Tap to top is something I find incredibly valuable, and it irks the hell out of me that android hasn't found its own solution for that task.

^^ Agree.

Yeah that's nonsense. This isn't anything to do with "scrolling behavior". The 3rd page in this thread takes 8 swipes to return to the top on my S5 That's incredibly tedious for frequent forum peruser.

Tap-a-talk?

Tap to top is a phenomenal user experience enhancement.

^^ Agree. Like the feature, but there are Android browsers that support it.

 

[Technarchy]

^^ Agree.



Tap-a-talk?



^^ Agree. Like the feature, but there are Android browsers that support it.

Which android browsers and are they as good as the stock Samsung browser which I prefer for a couple of reasons, including immersive mode.

 

[The Game 161]

Tapatalk rules. All the forums I post on I use it.

 

[pdqgp]

Which android browsers and are they as good as the stock Samsung browser which I prefer for a couple of reasons, including immersive mode.

Dolphin Browser. Get ready as it has a ton of features and add-ons that make it pretty powerful too. It's fast. Layouts are much better than a standard Android Browser too. If you're used to the same old crummy ones though it will take you a day to really appreciate it but once you do you won't go back.

I love it. Tap to top is at the bottom of every page. You can also create custom on screen gestures to do different things. Very cool.

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Tapatalk rules. All the forums I post on I use it.

This for most forums I visit include MacRumors

 

[callawayno1]

i have a question how far ago was the samsung s5 released was it in juni 2014? in other words when will the s6 appear thats my question ?

 

[Technarchy]

i have a question how far ago was the samsung s5 released was it in juni 2014? in other words when will the s6 appear thats my question ?

April in the USA so it's only 6 months old.

 

[Truefan31]

There can be only one...Samsung S5 vs iPhone 6

Just wanna say tap to top is a great feature. One I'm sure others would want as well. Tap to bottom is not nearly as effective. It's about going through the content, from top to bottom, then either swiping back or at the top to the URL. It's ridiculous really to even argue that tap to bottom is more useful than tap to top

God iPhones are so bleh huh. They've only been the top selling smartphone every year. They must be terrible lol

 

[jamezr]

Just wanna say tap to top is a great feature. One I'm sure others would want as well. Tap to bottom is not nearly as effective. It's about going through the content, from top to bottom, then either swiping back or at the top to the URL. It's ridiculous really to even argue that tap to bottom is more useful than tap to top

God iPhones are so bleh huh. They've only been the top selling smartphone every year. They must be terrible lol

The iPhone is the single best selling phone model in the world. But there are other phone makers out there. Apple keeps losing market share. Why is that then? Since 2011 they have lost about 7% globally. I am sure the numbers will get better by the year end reports due to strong IP6 sales. But they will not get that much better in the global market.
So if the IOS is so much better why does it get trounced globally?

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

 

[Truefan31]

The iPhone is the single best selling phone model in the world. But there are other phone makers out there. Apple keeps losing market share. Why is that then? Since 2011 they have lost about 7% globally. I am sure the numbers will get better by the year end reports due to strong IP6 sales. But they will not get that much better in the global market.
So if the IOS is so much better why does it get trounced globally?

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http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

Wow the best selling smartphone not selling as much as a huge multitude of different phones from different oems that share the same os? That's a shocker really lol. If iOS is so bad nobody should be buying the iPhones then. Who's the biggest android flagship oem? Samsung? Cuz last time I read their s5 was being outsold by the 5s and the 5s came out a year ago.

Yeah apple is doomed I guess smh.

 

[Technarchy]

The iPhone is the single best selling phone model in the world. But there are other phone makers out there. Apple keeps losing market share. Why is that then? Since 2011 they have lost about 7% globally. I am sure the numbers will get better by the year end reports due to strong IP6 sales. But they will not get that much better in the global market.
So if the IOS is so much better why does it get trounced globally?

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http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

That's a wonky way to look at the nature or smartphone sales and growth.

The smartphone market was much smaller, and relative to that market, Apple's piece of the pie was larger at one time.

In a larger smartphone market Apple's slice is smaller sure, but the iPhone is still the single best selling brand of smartphone on the planet.

Apple is getting trounced in a way other companies only dream about, especially Samsung whose mobile division is having problems sustaining momentum in the way Apple is not with the iPhone 6 and 6+

 

[jamezr]

Wow the best selling smartphone not selling as much as a huge multitude of different phones from different oems that share the same os? That's a shocker really lol. If iOS is so bad nobody should be buying the iPhones then. Who's the biggest android flagship oem? Samsung? Cuz last time I read their s5 was being outsold by the 5s and the 5s came out a year ago.

Yeah apple is doomed I guess smh.

No one is saying Apple is doomed.....only you. You consistently downplay all Android features. Real fanboyism....when shown that obviously the rest of the world disagrees with you...... you resort to the "Apple is doomed" mantra. Nice! So what mobile OS sells better? Has more market share? If it was so bad as you make it out to be then those numbers would not be there from that chart.
IOS8 is good...buggy but good. If IOS was so great then why has it LOST marketshare over the 3 years? You think the IP6 will save it? The adoption rate for IOS is the lowest of the previous IOS releases.

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That's a wonky way to look at the nature or smartphone sales and growth.

The smartphone market was much smaller, and relative to that market, Apple's piece of the pie was larger at one time.

In a larger smartphone market Apple's slice is smaller sure, but the iPhone is still the single best selling brand of smartphone on the planet.

Apple is getting trounced in a way other companies only dream about, especially Samsung whose mobile division is having problems sustaining momentum in the way Apple is not with the iPhone 6 and 6+

Why is is wonky? Number do not lie....
The iPhone is the single best selling phone in the world. No doubt about it. That was not what my post was about. The person I replied to knocks all Android features...... I was showing him that if it is so bad..........why does it have the lion's share of the market?

 

[ravipiero]

The iPhone is the single best selling phone model in the world. But there are other phone makers out there. Apple keeps losing market share. Why is that then? Since 2011 they have lost about 7% globally. I am sure the numbers will get better by the year end reports due to strong IP6 sales. But they will not get that much better in the global market.
So if the IOS is so much better why does it get trounced globally?

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http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

"Most of Android's strength this quarter was fueled by gains in the low (US$100<US$200) and ultra low-end (<US$100) of the market, seeing those categories grow 16.5% sequentially since the first quarter."


Apple doesn't play on those market segments and IMO those market segments are the reason iPhone global merket share dropped. And no, even iPhone 6 and 6+ wouldn't improve that number if that's what you're after.


If we could have a flagship only sales chart just then we can see whether iOS and iPhones are actually declining or not.

 

[jamezr]

"Most of Android's strength this quarter was fueled by gains in the low (US$100<US$200) and ultra low-end (<US$100) of the market, seeing those categories grow 16.5% sequentially since the first quarter."


Apple doesn't play on those market segments and IMO those market segments are the reason iPhone global merket share dropped. And no, even iPhone 6 and 6+ wouldn't improve that number if that's what you're after.


If we could have a flagship only sales chart just then we can see whether iOS and iPhones are actually declining or not.

Doesn't matter...., sales are still sales. That's like saying we will only compared sales of IOS phones with s stylus. Since Apple doesn't choose to participate in the lower end market doesn't mean we should exclude them from global sales reporting.

 

[Technarchy]

Why is is wonky? Number do not lie....
The iPhone is the single best selling phone in the world. No doubt about it. That was not what my post was about. The person I replied to knocks all Android features...... I was showing him that if it is so bad..........why does it have the lion's share of the market?

It's wonky because it's deceptive analytics that don't stand up to logical scrutiny.

Broadly speaking, which position is stronger for a company, to sell 200 phones in a market of 1000 buyers, or selling 20,000 phones in a market 200,000 buyers.

It's obvious the second scenario is more indicative of a companies position and strength despite the largely meaningless metric of "market share", which Apple has said many times they have no intention of chasing the biggest market share at all costs.

Also, android is not a company, but an lite portable OS that is put in everything from phones, to refrigerators, and Nasa satellites. That's no exaggeration, Android is literally used in rice cookers. So when trying to formulate some opinion based upon "market share" logically it just doesn't work when trying to compare iOS to android in terms of installed units.

 

[jamezr]

Also, android is not a company, but an lite portable OS that is put in everything from phones, to refrigerators, and Nasa satellites. That's no exaggeration, Android is literally used in rice cookers. So when trying to formulate some opinion based upon "market share" logically it just doesn't work when trying to compare iOS to android in terms of installed units.

Sorry but the only thing wonky here is this^^^^^
We were comparing smartphone sales....
If Apple choose not to port/make its OS available to be used in different efforts. That is one them....... If they choose not to participate then that is their choice. But it should not be held against their competitors sales numbers.
The same can be said about the lower end phone market. That is on Apple if they choose not to participate in that category.
I mean they are one of if not the most profitable companies in the world. So they do not need to have a higher percentage of the market. They are doing fine......

 

[Technarchy]

Sorry but the only thing wonky here is this^^^^^
We were comparing smartphone sales....
If Apple choose not to port/make its OS available to be used in different efforts. That is one them....... If they choose not to participate then that is their choice. But it should not be held against their competitors sales numbers.
The same can be said about the lower end phone market. That is on Apple if they choose not to participate in that category.
I mean they are one of if not the most profitable companies in the world. So they do not need to have a higher percentage of the market. They are doing fine......

Okay compare smart phone sales then.

Name a smartphone model that sells more than the iPhone...

http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/30/5953603/samsung-sales-and-profits-down-q2-2014
http://bgr.com/2014/07/10/htc-one-m8-sales-q3-2014/
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/lg-posts-record-132m-smartphone-sales-q4-swings-loss/2014-01-27
http://online.wsj.com/articles/sony-posts-surprise-profit-1406788070

compared to...

 

[jamezr]

Okay compare smart phone sales then.

Name a smartphone model that sells more than the iPhone...

Maybe you didn't follow what was being replied and quoted....so I will refresh it for you......

Here is what we were talking about....smartphones sales by OS....this is the graphic the last two posters and myself were debating.

 

[ravipiero]

Doesn't matter...., sales are still sales. That's like saying we will only compared sales of IOS phones with s stylus. Since Apple doesn't choose to participate in the lower end market doesn't mean we should exclude them from global sales reporting.

"iOS experienced a slight drop in market share, down to just 11.7% from 13.0% in the same quarter last year, representing the growing shift of demand toward low-cost smartphones"

Let's assume hypotheticaly that iOS is better than Android . Those who are looking for <$200 phones still can't buy an iOS device because there aren't any iPhones on that price range.

Apple only care about their segments market share, not the overall industry market share. If they are still the leader on their market segments (and they still are) it means that they are on the right track.

 

[Technarchy]

Maybe you didn't follow what was being replied and quoted....so I will refresh it for you......

Here is what we were talking about....smartphones sales by OS....this is the graphic the last two posters and myself were debating.

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Guess that explains why android phone makers are doing so well.

There's a term for that. Race to the bottom.

 

[jamezr]

"iOS experienced a slight drop in market share, down to just 11.7% from 13.0% in the same quarter last year, representing the growing shift of demand toward low-cost smartphones"

Let's assume hypotheticaly that iOS is better than Android . Those who are looking for <$200 phones still can't buy an iOS device because there aren't any iPhones on that price range.

Apple only care about their segments market share, not the overall industry market share. If they are still the leader on their market segments (and they still are) it means that they are on the right track.

Agreed..... I have not said anything different. They are doing just fine with the marketshare they do have......

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Guess that explains why android phone makers are doing so well.

There's a term for that. Race to the bottom.

I guess time will tell..... Lets see whats happens in the next couple of years....