There has to be a better way to tether than this...

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by The General, Sep 24, 2008.

  1. The General macrumors 601

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    Is there a reason we can't just have the iPhone run an adhoc network that any computer could just connect to and use? It would need to run a DNS server, right? Forward to OpenDNS or whatever. Seems like it would be better than this whole proxy thing. Is there a technical limitation that prevents this from being possible?
     
  2. CocoaPuffs macrumors 68010

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    What are you talking about? I thought iPhone modem allows you to do this.
     
  3. TheNightPhoenix macrumors 6502

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    I assume your using the Netshare Application?

    I wondered the same thing, I just guessed the SDK didn't give the accessibility to make an ad hoc network from the phone itself only connect to them.

    Are you having issues getting it to work?
     
  4. The General thread starter macrumors 601

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    NetShare, iPhoneModem.de, iPhoneModem.com, 3proxy, srelay, etc ... they all use the same principle:

    1. Create adhoc network on your computer.
    2. Configure your computer to use a manual IP address.
    3. Connect to the adhoc network with your iPhone.
    4. Configure your phone to have a manual IP address.
    5. Run proxy server on your phone.
    6. Configure your computer to use the proxy server.

    It's a mess. It's a jumbled mess. I'm saying they should make an app (jailbreak app obviously) that:

    1. Creates an adhoc network FROM THE IPHONE.
    2. Runs a DNS server/does whatever it needs to do so that computers can just connect to it and use the internet without any configuration.

    I have no trouble getting NetShare, etc, to work. I'm using NetShare right now actually. I'm saying the entire principle we go off of is broken. It could be MUCH simpler, that is unless there is a technical limitation that prevents the iPhone from creating an adhoc network that I don't know about.

    That's why I made this thread - I don't need help. I want to discuss the possibility of this app. I don't want "What are you taking about?" and then "I thought something that is 100% incorrect." No, iPhoneModem does not run an adhoc network from your phone. It is a proxy server, just like all the rest of them. It's just a fancy one.

    It doesn't even matter what the SDK gives access too. It doesn't give access to background applications, but we can do it. It doesn't give access to the rest of the file system, but we can do it. It doesn't give access to backlight brightness, but we can do it.

    Is the ability to create ad hoc networks a HARDWARE feature? If so, there's the limitation that prevents this from working.
     
  5. pj rage macrumors 6502

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    I don't know the answer to your question, but I too wish the phone had adhoc mode for the wireless. It would enable things like file sharing and wireless multiplayer (without an external wireless network).
     
  6. The General thread starter macrumors 601

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    Good point. I do wonder, though how that program "Friendbook" that let you swap contacts from phone to phone worked.
     
  7. bilboa macrumors regular

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    I think the reason Apple hasn't added this functionality is because they don't support tethering with the iPhone, and other than tethering, what reason is there to want the iPhone to host an ad-hoc network? I'm sure that if Apple ever supports an official method of tethering it will work more smoothly than the current hacks people have come up with.
     
  8. The General thread starter macrumors 601

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    There is no reason why the iPhone would need an ad hoc network other than tethering, at least that I can think of. I am not disputing Apple's choice to not include that functionality.

    This is the hacks section. Obviously in order to make this happen it would need to be a hack.

    I think if Apple did it officially, it would go through USB or bluetooth. Probably USB. But Wifi is what we have to work with.
     
  9. Phil A. Moderator

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    What the iPhone really needs is a product similar to JoikuSpot that is available for the Symbian OS. Basically, it creates an ad-hoc network that you can then connect to from your laptop, etc and the software then connects you out to the Internet over the phone's 3G connection. No proxying, tunneling or other messing about, just connect as you would to any WiFi router.
    Whilst this can't be done on the iPhone using the SDK, I see no reason why it couldn't be done for Jailbroken phones.
    The other big thing that this has over NetShare is it runs in the background and is, in fact, a perfect example of an app that should be able to run in the background and which won't be helped by push notifications.
    This is the sort of innovative development that is being stifled by the App Store controls
     
  10. sublyme2 macrumors newbie

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    I believe this is now possible with pdanet app just released on cydia there is another whole thread on it in this same forum. I would cut n paste it but I'm on the iPhone LOL
     
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