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I'm bringing up this topic again.

Is there an app for the iphone that hacks WEP secured Wifi networks?

I have forgot my password for my WEP and would like to hack it with my iphone. So no legal or moral discussion, strictly technical. Is it possible?

Not this again. :D
 
How about this: If you're so concerned about people who can omg hax ur internets o no, then don't use WEP. Period. WEP has been known to be insecure since 2001. That was seven years ago!

Either use WPA/WPA2, or stick with cables.

(And if you feel you must absolutely have WEP for your Nintendo DS, I recommend hiding the SSID, MAC whitelisting, and firewalling the hell out of the connection between your WEP access point and the rest of your network, and still accepting that it's insecure.)

If WEP goes the way of the dodo, then we don't need to bicker about the legality of cracking it. :)

yup yup, its been said many times but WPA is up the crapper. you still see many of these networks running around though and are extremely easy to hack.

Okay, maybe I havent forgot my WEP password :rolleyes: but I'm still interested in the possibility of a KisMac..ish app for the iphone. I mean, it could be done, right?

hahahaha see i knew it :p. ii still dont know of any apps but im sure something will come up.
 
yup yup, its been said many times but WPA is up the crapper. you still see many of these networks running around though and are extremely easy to hack.
Atlest in Sweden its VERY rare that private networks use WPA, they almost always use WEP.
 
Atlest in Sweden its VERY rare that private networks use WPA, they almost always use WEP.

oh really?? well australia is a country that is very very far behind in technologies.

i find a lot of older aged people who dont upgrade their products often (because thats how they were brought up) use the older WPA because thats how old their routers are hahaha. (mwahaha)
 
oh really?? well australia is a country that is very very far behind in technologies.

i find a lot of older aged people who dont upgrade their products often (because thats how they were brought up) use the older WPA because thats how old their routers are hahaha. (mwahaha)
Oh well then I guess we're gonna beat you aussies in that too, because regarding WEP usage in Sweden, that only applied to secured networks (of course). I might go far enough to say that only 50% of all private networks are protected/locked at all. The rest uses no password what so ever.
 
Oh well then I guess we're gonna beat you aussies in that too, because regarding WEP usage in Sweden, that only applied to secured networks (of course). I might go far enough to say that only 50% of all private networks are protected/locked at all. The rest uses no password what so ever.

hahaha everyone beats us in everything technology wise!!!!

im pretty sure that all of the businesses would have some sort of security. i dont live in a very heavily populated area but all wireless networks are secured with some sort of protection, except for the ones that are purposely meant to be free (which there arent very many of).
 
Wow, there are some uptight people in here. Buncha squirrels hogging nuts.

Back in 2000, in Madison, Wi, I decided to secure my computer and leave my network open, to see what kind of traffic I'd get. I called it "Pete's Hotspot". My neighbor across the street figured out it was mine and thanked me, as he had been having troubles with our monopolistic broadband provider, and offered to kick in a few bucks a month. I told him to keep it. He talked about it with other neighbors, and more and more, people thought it would be neat to simply have a big open network that covered the whole block. When I moved, we had a totally open wifi neighborhood, for anyone who happened to be passing through. You could go anywhere with a portable and you'd be connected. We hadn't had a security issue in 7 years. The thought was, how nice would it be if wherever you were in the city, you could just find an open internet connection? Pretty nice. So lets open em up.

It feels so backward to now show up to crowded California, and find two dozen individual, overlapping wifi networks on my street, each locked up tight as their owners sphincters, like a dozens of interconnected islands who all refuse to acknowledge each others presence. As far as I can tell, people do it because it's the easy way to security. But as I've mentioned it to a couple people, I get lots of "F that, I pay for it." "Yeah, I pay for mine too. ...whether I'm using it or not. And it sits idle most of the day. It might as well be doing someone some good."

I have no sympathy for pointless greed.
 
Wow, there are some uptight people in here. Buncha squirrels hogging nuts.

Back in 2000, in Madison, Wi, I decided to secure my computer and leave my network open, to see what kind of traffic I'd get. I called it "Pete's Hotspot". My neighbor across the street figured out it was mine and thanked me, as he had been having troubles with our monopolistic broadband provider, and offered to kick in a few bucks a month. I told him to keep it. He talked about it with other neighbors, and more and more, people thought it would be neat to simply have a big open network that covered the whole block. When I moved, we had a totally open wifi neighborhood, for anyone who happened to be passing through. You could go anywhere with a portable and you'd be connected. We hadn't had a security issue in 7 years. The thought was, how nice would it be if wherever you were in the city, you could just find an open internet connection? Pretty nice. So lets open em up.

It feels so backward to now show up to crowded California, and find two dozen individual, overlapping wifi networks on my street, each locked up tight as their owners sphincters, like a dozens of interconnected islands who all refuse to acknowledge each others presence. As far as I can tell, people do it because it's the easy way to security. But as I've mentioned it to a couple people, I get lots of "F that, I pay for it." "Yeah, I pay for mine too. ...whether I'm using it or not. And it sits idle most of the day. It might as well be doing someone some good."

I have no sympathy for pointless greed.

Keep in mind if someone who uses your open wifi does something illegal, it's YOUR door that the police/riaa will be knocking on since it's YOUR public IP that they'll trace.

You may be able to prove it wasn't you eventually, but only after they seize your computer equipment and thousands in legal expenses.

So some people secure their wifi to keep criminals out.
 
hahaha everyone beats us in everything technology wise!!!!

im pretty sure that all of the businesses would have some sort of security. i dont live in a very heavily populated area but all wireless networks are secured with some sort of protection, except for the ones that are purposely meant to be free (which there arent very many of).
Yeah sure, all company networks Ive ever tried to reach from across the street have been locked, I'm referring to private networks only. And I can guarantee, there are A LOT of private unlocked wifis in Sweden, atleast in Gothenburg.

However it would be nice to have a simple app on the iphone that could...well...make it easier if there are now open networks :D

Imagine that the app did exist, how long would it take for the iphone to crack a 128 bit WEP?

5 secs?
5 mins?
5 days? :rolleyes:
 
i think there is a big misconception between gaining access to a network and intercepting other ppls data as defined in the Federal Wire and Electronic Communications Interception Act.

I think you should re-read most of the exceeding authorization statutes that most states and the Federal Government have.

A lot of ppl [reasonably] assume that things are illegal but CANNOT point to a law or cite a courtcase where someone has been fined, arrested or charged with accessing a neighbor's network for their own personal use.
Florida v. Benjamin Smith III (felony conviction)
Illinois v. David Kauchak (Fine, 1yr probation)
Michigan vs Samual Peterson

Note that all of the above were for *open* WiFi networks.

If anyone can forward a specific law that says one cannot use a WiFi for your own personal use (and I sure there are some) can you please post it.

See above. Seriously, it's not even a difficult Google. How far most laws go is still not determined, but it's probably not going to be fun being a test case (there are folks trying to wind up trespass to chattels cases here and there, but the exceeding authorization thing seems to be the catch-all that most folks use. I've been involved in one federal exceeding authorization case, but it wasn't WiFi and exceeding access was the plea deal the suspect took.)


[I'm not a lawyer, I express my personal opinion, but don't dispense legal advice, and my personal opinion is that anyone stealing WiFi is a moron just waiting for someone to find an excuse to charge you with something.]
 
Wow, there are some uptight people in here. Buncha squirrels hogging nuts.

Back in 2000, in Madison, Wi, I decided to secure my computer and leave my network open, to see what kind of traffic I'd get. I called it "Pete's Hotspot". My neighbor across the street figured out it was mine and thanked me, as he had been having troubles with our monopolistic broadband provider, and offered to kick in a few bucks a month. I told him to keep it. He talked about it with other neighbors, and more and more, people thought it would be neat to simply have a big open network that covered the whole block. When I moved, we had a totally open wifi neighborhood, for anyone who happened to be passing through. You could go anywhere with a portable and you'd be connected. We hadn't had a security issue in 7 years. The thought was, how nice would it be if wherever you were in the city, you could just find an open internet connection? Pretty nice. So lets open em up.

It feels so backward to now show up to crowded California, and find two dozen individual, overlapping wifi networks on my street, each locked up tight as their owners sphincters, like a dozens of interconnected islands who all refuse to acknowledge each others presence. As far as I can tell, people do it because it's the easy way to security. But as I've mentioned it to a couple people, I get lots of "F that, I pay for it." "Yeah, I pay for mine too. ...whether I'm using it or not. And it sits idle most of the day. It might as well be doing someone some good."

I have no sympathy for pointless greed.

your very commendable for your openness towards your neighbourhood and all. its a great idea!!! i just have a few questions and concerns with that.

with your broadband plan, how much usage did you have per month and what were you paying?? i know that here in Aust that would be almost impossible to keep under the 25gb/$100 per month with my own family, let alone sharing with 5-10 other families in our neighbourhood (we get capped back to 64kb so its a dog to go over the limit).

from personal experience i find it very hard to contemplate being able to trust my local neighbours, they arent the most trustworthy of people.

if your cool with it though, i think its a great idea what you were doing!! its good to see some nice people around :)

Keep in mind if someone who uses your open wifi does something illegal, it's YOUR door that the police/riaa will be knocking on since it's YOUR public IP that they'll trace.

You may be able to prove it wasn't you eventually, but only after they seize your computer equipment and thousands in legal expenses.

So some people secure their wifi to keep criminals out.

i think that is one of the most important points to consider here with this issue. i know i certainly wouldnt like a criminal record for being nice, probably a fix to this would be to secure the network, give the neighbours the networkpassword, and have MAC address filtering, simple!

Yeah sure, all company networks Ive ever tried to reach from across the street have been locked, I'm referring to private networks only. And I can guarantee, there are A LOT of private unlocked wifis in Sweden, atleast in Gothenburg.

However it would be nice to have a simple app on the iphone that could...well...make it easier if there are now open networks :D

Imagine that the app did exist, how long would it take for the iphone to crack a 128 bit WEP?

5 secs?
5 mins?
5 days? :rolleyes:

private companies are always tight about their resources because they have to be to keep revenue and profits etcetc.

the iphone has a 400mhz processor (i think). if there was a program it would probably take a few minutes (some cases maybe 1-2hours)
 
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in my opinion, we could really stick it to comcast and other outrageously priced service providers. i think it would be really cool for a company to take the whole neighborhood idea and market it. imagine, your street has a shared wifi connection. it would probably be cheaper than the 40/mo i pay for comcast and by the time many of the older folks that don't use internet are gone, it would be ideal for the younger generation.
 
Are we allowed to link to WEP cracking programs on this forum? Or is it frowned upon?
 
I'm bringing up this topic again.

Is there an app for the iphone that hacks WEP secured Wifi networks?

I have forgot my password for my WEP and would like to hack it with my iphone. So no legal or moral discussion, strictly technical. Is it possible?

If you really forgot YOUR password then just reset the router and give it a new WEP password. Simple as that.
 
Sorry, but your obszhdenie about cracking WPA keys just kills .... I am from Russia, but I already had it in the greatest detail yet known when I started to study information security as well as ways to break (not just WiFi and sites, and the local machine).:D

p.s. I can not walk past those forums in which to reinvent the wheel.
 
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