There's no pleasing some people :)

[profmjh]

There have occasionally been flare-ups on these forums about perceived limitations of the Apple Watch, as well as fears about all kinds of problems that might arise with it.

Someone joked that if the Apple Watch had a teleport app, people would still complain "this app is useless: I teleported home and it only took me to the front door and not straight into the living room".

And that made me think of this cartoon:

 

[bbeagle]

So true. This board is littered with teenagers and younger, who adhere to 'what people think of them'. It's really ridiculous.

 

[Rogifan]

And then you have those that whine it does too much. Like Tom Warren from the Verge saying anything that requires a 'guided tour' is a UX mess. never mind that I'm seeing some people are now interested in the watch after they watches these videos.

 

[dannyyankou]

It's one thing to not be interested in a product, but there's a small group of people who are being VERY VOCAL about it. We get it, you don't like the product. Click no on the "are you buying an Apple Watch?" poll and move on.

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And then you have those that whine it does too much. Like Tom Warren from the Verge saying anything that requires a 'guided tour' is a UX mess. never mind that I'm seeing some people are now interested in the watch after they watches these videos.

He must not remember these:

 

[Rogifan]

It's one thing to not be interested in a product, but there's a small group of people who are being VERY VOCAL about it. We get it, you don't like the product. Click no on the "are you buying an Apple Watch?" poll and move on.

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He must not remember these:

YouTube: video

He still claims the iPhone was easy to understand. But then using his logic the iPhone didn't need guided tours. That's BS. Of course after using a product for 7 years or so it's easy to now think it was always intuitive. But if I gave my 75 year old father, who's never used computers of any kind, an iPad or iPhone he wouldn't have a clue how to use it without someone giving him a 'guided tour'.

Like you said I think there is a segment of the population (especially within the tech press) that hate the watch, are convinced it's going to be a nightmare to use and nothing will change their mind. And when they review the product they'll fall back on the old and tired "Steve Jobs wouldn't have blah blah blah" to support their opinion.

 

[Piggie]

So true. This board is littered with teenagers and younger, who adhere to 'what people think of them'. It's really ridiculous.

I wish we could accept that, it's almost impossible, even if you don't realize you are doing it, to genuinely not concern yourself about what others think of you.

You can never really know this unless you are totally left on your own, isolated for ages without the industry/media/society giving you, let's say Markers about how you should look/wear/buy etc.

It's just conforming to the society you were born into, even if it's not obvious to you on a normal daily basis.

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He still claims the iPhone was easy to understand. But then using his logic the iPhone didn't need guided tours. That's BS. Of course after using a product for 7 years or so it's easy to now think it was always intuitive. But if I gave my 75 year old father, who's never used computers of any kind, an iPad or iPhone he wouldn't have a clue how to use it without someone giving him a 'guided tour'.

Like you said I think there is a segment of the population (especially within the tech press) that hate the watch, are convinced it's going to be a nightmare to use and nothing will change their mind. And when they review the product they'll fall back on the old and tired "Steve Jobs wouldn't have blah blah blah" to support their opinion.

And I also agree, as I can speak from personal experience.
You give an iPad to someone who knows almost nothing about computers and they don't have a clue.

 

[ninethirty]

What about people that WANTED to love the Apple Watch, but are honest in their assessment that it seems underwhelming? The opposite end to your problem is that this forum is filled with people that without question are prepared to love whatever Apple gives them. I saw an overwhelming majority of people agree yesterday that 4K isn't necessary on a TV product and that Apple's making the right decision by holding that back. These same people would have literally claimed that 4K was now poised to take over if Apple HAD decided to make that part of the product.

 

[kbuck1984]

What about people that WANTED to love the Apple Watch, but are honest in their assessment that it seems underwhelming? The opposite end to your problem is that this forum is filled with people that without question are prepared to love whatever Apple gives them. I saw an overwhelming majority of people agree yesterday that 4K isn't necessary on a TV product and that Apple's making the right decision by holding that back. These same people would have literally claimed that 4K was now poised to take over if Apple HAD decided to make that part of the product.

You have people at both ends. I thought the watch was/is great and look forward to it. Looks great and has everything I wanted, except battery life, in the 1st gen. However, not supporting 4K on a future device not even announced in 2015 is disappointing and will leave me waiting or moving on from Apple TV. Not everyone blindly follows whatever Apple tells them to.

 

[ninethirty]

Unfortunately, around here, they do.

You have people at both ends. I thought the watch was/is great and look forward to it. Looks great and has everything I wanted, except battery life, in the 1st gen. However, not supporting 4K on a future device not even announced in 2015 is disappointing and will leave me waiting or moving on from Apple TV. Not everyone blindly follows whatever Apple tells them to.

 

[sterl320]

The worst people are the ones that have so much to complain about, but can't give any legitimate reasons to back it up.

 

[KauaiBruce]

That original iPhone walkthrough brought back so many memories. I forgot that it was mostly phone, ipod, and internet. Getting the full internet was AMAZING at the time. I had a different smartphone that had a horrible time with it.

It is funny that I am getting the Watch right before a trip to Europe like I did with my original iPhone. The big difference was that I had my phone before they were released in Europe. I pulled that out on the plane (LHR to Barcelona I think) right after we landed and people went NUTS with excitement just to see it.

It will be a little different this time. The big apple store in Berlin is just two blocks from my hotel. I will be taking my husband there so he can try on bands and decide which one he wants. If I had to guess he will be getting leather. NOT buying it there because it will be more expensive and no need to use up his duty allowance on something we can get at home.

 

[Lucifer666]

Something like this flushes out certain types. The rude comments they will make amongst themselves for the benefit of strangers and acquaintances. These people I would like to avoid in general. Trouble down the road

 

[bunnicula]

What about people that WANTED to love the Apple Watch, but are honest in their assessment that it seems underwhelming? The opposite end to your problem is that this forum is filled with people that without question are prepared to love whatever Apple gives them. I saw an overwhelming majority of people agree yesterday that 4K isn't necessary on a TV product and that Apple's making the right decision by holding that back. These same people would have literally claimed that 4K was now poised to take over if Apple HAD decided to make that part of the product.

I don't think 4K is necessary. It is, however, very nice to have.

We're running 3 separate Apple TV units in our house right now and since we have no plans to buy a 4K TV or a new Apple TV unit (unless one breaks down out of warranty; I don't even know if they sell extended warranties for Apple TV...it's cheap, anyway) this is a non issue for us.

That said, if we decided to buy a 4K TV (if one of our TVs becomes obsolete, which may happen in the next couple of years) and Apple TV doesn't support 4K, we will have to consider another option for the new TV.

They really should be supporting 4K. Sales have slowly ramped up for 4K TV units.

 

[ninethirty]

I'm not sure I understand your post. You say it isn't necessary, and then say they should be supporting it.

It's 2015. I usually buy a new TV every 3 years or so and now that I'm in the market again, I don't even have a non 4K TV on the radar. And not because I necessarily want 4K, but because the TV's I'm looking at all happen to be 4K. And cost about 1/2 of what I paid for the one we're using now.

If Apple doesn't want to offer it's content in 4K, that's their own decision, and it'll either hurt them or it won't, but if they're building anything worth it's salt, and I can use it to stream material from Youtube or Netflix, I want 4K.

It used to be that I was the guy who explained the high price of Apple's products to friends citing a better experience, better software, better hardware and features, etc. About the only thing left in the list I still cite (in most cases anyway) is the hardware.

I don't think 4K is necessary. It is, however, very nice to have.

We're running 3 separate Apple TV units in our house right now and since we have no plans to buy a 4K TV or a new Apple TV unit (unless one breaks down out of warranty; I don't even know if they sell extended warranties for Apple TV...it's cheap, anyway) this is a non issue for us.

That said, if we decided to buy a 4K TV (if one of our TVs becomes obsolete, which may happen in the next couple of years) and Apple TV doesn't support 4K, we will have to consider another option for the new TV.

They really should be supporting 4K. Sales have slowly ramped up for 4K TV units.

 

[bunnicula]

Just because I think they should go ahead and support it doesn't mean I have any use for it now or in the next couple of years, for that matter.

I think they should support it for the same reasons you do. We're on the same page re: Apple TV.

I'm not sure I understand your post. You say it isn't necessary, and then say they should be supporting it.

It's 2015. I usually buy a new TV every 3 years or so and now that I'm in the market again, I don't even have a non 4K TV on the radar. And not because I necessarily want 4K, but because the TV's I'm looking at all happen to be 4K. And cost about 1/2 of what I paid for the one we're using now.

If Apple doesn't want to offer it's content in 4K, that's their own decision, and it'll either hurt them or it won't, but if they're building anything worth it's salt, and I can use it to stream material from Youtube or Netflix, I want 4K.

It used to be that I was the guy who explained the high price of Apple's products to friends citing a better experience, better software, better hardware and features, etc. About the only thing left in the list I still cite (in most cases anyway) is the hardware.