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In the iphone section I meant.
You wont see me at an android or WP7 forum for example trying to tell people how better my phone is than theirs.
I dont know, maybe Im crazy.....

Because there are many users contemplating switching to Android and there are many people who have jumped from iOS to Android on the forums, especially in the latest pages of the SGS2 VS iPhone thread.
 
So you're trying to get more people to switch to Android?:confused:

No. I haven't been calling people to switch to Android at all. I'm just an Android user who has owned an iPhone for four years, and have experiences that some people may find useful. I've only been replying to comments from people who have already been considering to jump ship before I said anything.
 
At the risk of igniting a flame war...I gave Android a good old college try. I used an Android phone as my main phone for nearly a year, and it was the worst experience I've ever had with a piece of technology. I had the original iPhone, the 3G and then I gave the Droid X a shot....what an absolute piece of crap.

I made the jump back to iPhone in February and I'll never look back. At the end of the day, I really only miss notifications in Android, everything else just doesn't matter because I have a phone that always works, as opposed to one that works sometimes.

Really, I think the only thing that iOS needs is an improved notifications system...oh...and the App Store app shouldn't kick me out to the homescreen every time I update an app, it's a pita when there are more than 2 or 3 apps to be updated.
 
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At the risk of igniting a flame war...I gave Android a good old college try. I used an Android phone as my main phone for nearly a year, and it was the worst experience I've ever had with a piece of technology. I had the original iPhone, the 3G and then I gave the Droid X a shot....what an absolute piece of crap.

I made the jump back to iPhone in February and I'll never look back. At the end of the day, I really only miss notifications in Android, everything else just doesn't matter because I have a phone that always works, as opposed to one that works sometimes.

At the end of the day, I think the only thing that iOS needs is an improved notifications system...oh...and the App Store app shouldn't kick me out to the homescreen every time I update an app, it's a pita when there are more than 2 or 3 apps to be updated.

Agreed, i did the same thing except i could only handle the HTC EVO for a week before getting my iPhone 3G back.
A revamp would be good wishful thinking.. but i agree, if it ain't broken then don't fix it.

For the OP's needs the Android phone suits him perfectly, which is perfectly fine!

Btw iCheddar, there's an "Update All" button on the top right of the Updates page on the App Store, just for that.
 
Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape about this? Contrary to most Android themed threads in the iPhone forum, I took the OP post more as a bit of useful information rather than trolling--he admitted to being a longtime iPhone fan and only made the switch to accommodate what he also admitted to being the most important feature for him. This capability does nothing for me personally but if I had a similar dilemma, this could be useful info.

I'm no Android fan but claiming the iPhone does everything better than every other iOS or device is just simple ignorance.
 
I have hundreds of episodes and new ones coming in daily. I don't have time for that.



That's because the iPhone could never decide anything with hardware acceleration in the first place haha. VLC uses the same battery as the native iPod app because they are the same.


Fine! Enjoy waiting for Android upgrades that never happen because your vender is putting all kinds of bloatware on it.
 
Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape about this? Contrary to most Android themed threads in the iPhone forum, I took the OP post more as a bit of useful information rather than trolling--he admitted to being a longtime iPhone fan and only made the switch to accommodate what he also admitted to being the most important feature for him. This capability does nothing for me personally but if I had a similar dilemma, this could be useful info.

I'm no Android fan but claiming the iPhone does everything better than every other iOS or device is just simple ignorance.

^This.

Mark my words, iPhone 4 is a beautiful device. With the upcoming iOS5 I wouldn't switch from it unless such a compelling reason appeared. I definitely miss the polished apps and smoother scrolling on the iPhone for sure. It just so happens that for me, the advantages offered by Android on the SGS2 prove to be more useful than opportunity cost I have to give up when I switch from iOS.

I would never hesitate to recommend an iPhone 4 to the majority of my friends and family. It is much more user friendly and is a joy to use. It's just not powerful enough for my needs.

If iOS5 actually delivers hardware acceleration, then mark my words, I will sell my brand-new Galaxy S II in favor of the new iPhone without hesitation! iOS is just so focused and beautiful, and definitely better to use than Android by a landslide. :D

Never forget: why do I have an iPad 2 instead of a Galaxy Tab 8.9? The Galaxy Tab has better hardware in every way just like how the SGS2 destroys the iPhone 4. It's because of iOS.
 
I guess I'm bumping a month old thread, but whatever.

There are a few misconceptions in this thread I'd like to point out. First, the iPad 2 is of course perfectly capable of playing any .mkv out there. And it is also not only capable of, but also optimized for decoding h264 video streams, contrary to what one person wrote up above - it can even use the hardware/native decoder to play this type of video stream. The issue is not with the video stream - it's typically the audio stream. I don't know the technical details as to why ac3 and dts audio streams are not optimized on the iPlatforms, but this is the limiting step. As one poster recommended above, you can remux a .mkv into an .mp4 with excellent results.

For those either too busy or lazy to convert/remux manually, consider a tool called mkv2mp4. It uses a combination of mkvtools, mp4box, besweet and eac3to to do the minimal conversion (i.e. it will remux an h.264 or avc video stream while transcoding ac3 or dts to aac), and pack it into an mp4 container. It will also properly downmix 5.1 or higher surround sound to stereo sound aac for optimized iDevice playback. And it is all automatic - it uses mediainfo to analyze the original video file, and you can select all files within a directory. I've found it works perfectly with any of the common .mkv files you can find out there. Some food for thought.
 
I'm strikingly similar to the op


lived in australia: check
loves anime: check
owned iphones for the last 4 years: check
has a mac book pro:check
ipad:check
samsung galaxy s2:check

moved over to android because of connivence or lack of , if we are talking about the iphone.

however in my case i got bored of IOS and not being able to have a file system, no ability to play most video formats ( like the op converting hundreds of episodes of anime and movies is simply not an option.)

this won't happen though, there is probably a reason why it won't happen but I'm not sure what that reason is.

one could say it's because apple want people to buy off itunes, but then again you can simply convert the video via a computer.

has anyone got any idea's why ios products don't support other formats?

my guess it's because they wan't people to move to a open-source ( or whatever you call it) format or something?
 
Apple wants to be known for having good battery life. With video they get it by having MPEG-4 decoder chips built-in.

They're not interested in spending time working on things that will only make the battery life worse if people were to use them.

Bottom line, if this matters to you then you're smart to leave. Wishing for it from Apple is a waste of time.

That's some of the worst, foolish logic I've ever read, unfortunately this forum is full of this.

Here's the thing right, implement the feature, let it play the video, when a normal thinking individual plays the video once and realizes it drains battery, he or she will deduct that it's probably not a good idea to play videos on battery, however if they're traveling on a train or in a hotel/home, anywhere where there is a power source and they can connect their iPhone they will have the ability to watch the video. The feature will be there and it'll be up them to think do they want to drain the battery or do they want to wait a little bit and watch it while the phone is connected to power.

I get where the iDevice users get the name "sheep" from now, many of you guys really are the sheep that want Apple to think for everything for you.

GPS drains battery, so Apple should not implement a GPS chip cause people like you get lost and don't know what to do with this awful, awful battery draining GPS, turning it off and not using it somehow never enters the mind.
 
I guess I'm bumping a month old thread, but whatever.

There are a few misconceptions in this thread I'd like to point out. First, the iPad 2 is of course perfectly capable of playing any .mkv out there. And it is also not only capable of, but also optimized for decoding h264 video streams, contrary to what one person wrote up above - it can even use the hardware/native decoder to play this type of video stream. The issue is not with the video stream - it's typically the audio stream. I don't know the technical details as to why ac3 and dts audio streams are not optimized on the iPlatforms, but this is the limiting step. As one poster recommended above, you can remux a .mkv into an .mp4 with excellent results.

For those either too busy or lazy to convert/remux manually, consider a tool called mkv2mp4. It uses a combination of mkvtools, mp4box, besweet and eac3to to do the minimal conversion (i.e. it will remux an h.264 or avc video stream while transcoding ac3 or dts to aac), and pack it into an mp4 container. It will also properly downmix 5.1 or higher surround sound to stereo sound aac for optimized iDevice playback. And it is all automatic - it uses mediainfo to analyze the original video file, and you can select all files within a directory. I've found it works perfectly with any of the common .mkv files you can find out there. Some food for thought.
Having to convert everything manually to play on the iPad isn't the same as supporting it. We should be long past having to convert everything just to play it on iOS. And, honestly, non-techies are not going to waist their time trying to figure all the converting options out.

This closed system is where Apple fails large.

Apple, of course, wants to keep all that $$ inhouse and wants you to buy everything throught itunes (or be forced to go out of your way to convert movies and waste hours of your time doing it), which is why they don't have native support for anything other than their own proprietary format.

All under the guise "it just works". Sure it "just works" if you limit your options to a very few. That's nothing to brag about.
 
Having to convert everything manually to play on the iPad isn't the same as supporting it. We should be long past having to convert everything just to play it on iOS. And, honestly, non-techies are not going to waist their time trying to figure all the converting options out.

This closed system is where Apple fails large.

Apple, of course, wants to keep all that $$ inhouse and wants you to buy everything throught itunes (or be forced to go out of your way to convert movies and waste hours of your time doing it), which is why they don't have native support for anything other than their own proprietary format.

All under the guise "it just works". Sure it "just works" if you limit your options to a very few. That's nothing to brag about.

Wrong. Non-techies don't have any video to convert. Non-techies don't torrent movies or whatever and try to load them on their mobile device.
 
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So you traded off carrying two batteries wherever you go for MKV decoding? I, like most people don't want to carry around 2 extra batteries for our phones wherever we go. Something like that is unacceptable and that's why Apple hasn't allowed it and will never allow it until batteries greatly improve.
 
however in my case i got bored of IOS and not being able to have a file system, no ability to play most video formats ( like the op converting hundreds of episodes of anime and movies is simply not an option.)
Like I said, this can be a very easy and painless process, with no loss of quality.
has anyone got any idea's why ios products don't support other formats?

my guess it's because they wan't people to move to a open-source ( or whatever you call it) format or something?
It's really the container that is not supported. A video file is basically a file that typically contains separate video and audio streams. If you use a tool to analyze a video file (say, mkv), you can see these streams and extract them separately. In many cases the video streams play flawlessly on the iPhone, if only it is remuxed into a different container (mkv -> mp4). For some reason the preferred audio format on the iPhone is AAC and there is no support for ac3 or dts streams, which are typically found in HD mkv movies.

EDIT: @ Sedrick: Your point is well taken, but just for the record that tool I mentioned (mkv2mp4) doesn't take hours, and can be all automated. It's a good method if you don't want to give up having an iPhone but still want to be able to download or rip movies/tv shows in a standard format but that format is unsupported by the iDevice.
 
I've been an iPhone user since 2007. I've owned every iPhone iteration. I loved my iPhone 4. To be honest, all the complaints about the notification system and the lack of widgets didn't make much of a difference with me. The iPhone 4 worked, and worked well. It could do everything I expected my smartphone to do - except one thing:

The decoding of other video formats.

I know Apple wants the user experience to be seamless. I know they believe the installation of codecs or allowing third-party players such as VLC gain access to hardware acceleration may jeopardize the user experience (in terms of battery, most likely). But this feature for a lot of people who see the iPhone and iPad as multimedia consumption devices is just too important.

I was really looking forward to my iPad 2. It technically should be able to play my 720p MKV without a problem given its hardware, but alas, it choked on the first frame no matter what I give it. This is just not good enough. When the Samsung Galaxy S II came out, it is the first Android phone with hardware powerful enough to decode MKV, even at 1080p as if it's butter.

The decision was obvious.

As much as it pains me to say goodbye to my iPhone, this feature is just far too important. Unless Apple implements third-party hardware acceleration APIs, I just can't see myself going back to this platform. The iPad 2 is a perfect example of a tablet powerful enough in terms of hardware, but becomes limited as a result of Apple's tight control.

Video Comparison to finish things off:

YouTube: video

And yes, I do own a MacBook Air and an iPad 2. There's no point calling me a hater, so don't even start. I'm just a neutral person who can see the flaws on the iOS platform and moved to a superior one where my needs can be fulfilled.

You are not a hater, the GS2 is slick and fast. Has the best screen you will see on a handheld for now, it is like the device is from the future when compared to the iP4. Even the iPhone 5 will not be exceeding the SG2 abilities. I am on my 4th week and am amazed at what a faster CPU does for a smart phone.
 
You are not a hater, the GS2 is slick and fast. Has the best screen you will see on a handheld for now, it is like the device is from the future when compared to the iP4. Even the iPhone 5 will not be exceeding the SG2 abilities. I am on my 4th week and am amazed at what a faster CPU does for a smart phone.
let's see... iPhone 4 release date: end of June 2010. Samsung galaxy s 2 release date: may 2011. So yes, a lot can change in a year.

Also can you forward me the specs of the iPhone 5? Just curious why you think you know more than the general public about the next gen iPhone.
 
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So you traded off carrying two batteries wherever you go for MKV decoding? I, like most people don't want to carry around 2 extra batteries for our phones wherever we go. Something like that is unacceptable and that's why Apple hasn't allowed it and will never allow it until batteries greatly improve.


I have a spare battery but only take it with me when i am going on trips or going to college.

I haven't used it yet because the battery life on this thing lasts as long as my iphone 4 when i use certain battery saving apps. plus Samsung is releasing an update soon to improve battery life even more.

That said, i don't see what's wrong with having a spare battery.

There have been times when my battery on my iphone has run out in college which has been a massive headache considering i put notes in my phone for study purposes. So i have tks borrow iphone charges etc

now i can simply put in a fully charged battery right in,incase the worst happens.

Also the reason why i can't be bothered converting is because its simply a massive and long pain in the ass. considering the iphone is mean to "just work" it doesn't half make things differcult sometimes.

Plugging in sgs2 and simply drag and drop any files i want >download video>download converter>convert>put on itunes>plug in iphone>wait to sync>done.

That process could take a huge amount of time if the file size is massive.
 
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