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How do you know the chamber won’t eventually run out of liquid to vaporize? ;)
Exactly this. Apple, known for its innovative leadership, used 1 drop of water in the vapor chamber. They could increase thermal performance if they added a second drop of water in the vapor chamber.

Too bad Apple Finance thought adding another $0.005 ct is too expensive.
 
Incorrect.

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As you can see 17Pro (orange line) drops the performance as much as before once it heats up, if not more. I wouldn't call this vapour chamber entirely a gimmick, but it was definitively overblown in importance and oversold in its current form as it stands.
They did the same with Airpods Pro 3. They claim the ANC improved 2 x times.

In reality the ANC improvement is approx 50% over the Airpods Pro 2.
 
And do you have actual measurable data to support this claim?

That's actually what I'm alluding to. Theories are one thing but it seems people are banking on theories without proof.
That FLIR image is the measurement. Sadly there’s no actual temperature number in that image but iPhone Air clearly shows a hot spot right around where battery connector is. iPhone 17 also have a relatively warm area though I have no idea what internal layout of iPhone 17 looks like.
 
That FLIR image is the measurement. Sadly there’s no actual temperature number in that image but iPhone Air clearly shows a hot spot right around where battery connector is. iPhone 17 also have a relatively warm area though I have no idea what internal layout of iPhone 17 looks like.

The iPhone 17 layout also shows a thermal hotspot. In fact, this was a problem with all past iPhones.

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Somehow it's being framed as a problem for Air specifically.
 
People aren’t talking enough about the vapor chamber. Give it two months and the iPhone Air’s components will start slowing down. The iPhone 17 Pro’s vapor chamber is the real game-changer—it keeps the phone running fast, all the time and indefinitely.

All the iPhone Air buyers will be regretting their decision.
The OP comment really does not make any sense. Certainly someone trying to make an iPhone Air into an iPhone Pro may regret their decision, but it is more likely that most folks buying Airs will use them as iPhone airs and not as iPhone pros. Airs should not be problematic unless an iPhone Air is pushed overly hard.
 
The 15 pro and 16 pro family notoriously overheated, but didn't "slow down in 2 months time". Why do you think the Air will suddenly do so? Also, vapor chambers aren't magical: once the chamber has absorbed enough heat, it's not really making much of a difference anymore, just look at most of the reviews that take a deep dive into sustained performance. At first they make a big difference, then... not so much.
Wow. Y'all need some science/engineering studies. Badly. The function of a vapor chamber is to transfer heat on an ongoing basis. A vapor chamber is not some simple heat sink that absorbs a finite amount of heat and is then full. Not even remotely.
 
Wow. Y'all need some science/engineering studies. Badly. The function of a vapor chamber is to transfer heat on an ongoing basis. A vapor chamber is not some simple heat sink that absorbs a finite amount of heat and is then full. Not even remotely.
Bingo. It dissipates heat at a faster rate on going. Sure you can get it to be saturated and throttle but it will still cool down faster than without the chamber. Basic thermal physics, like you said.
 
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That FLIR image is the measurement. Sadly there’s no actual temperature number in that image but iPhone Air clearly shows a hot spot right around where battery connector is. iPhone 17 also have a relatively warm area though I have no idea what internal layout of iPhone 17 looks like.
Such FLIR images are mostly just visual click bait. Any electronic device like a smart phone will of course show uneven temperature readings across the device surface.
 
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I am not worried about thermals with the Air. I only play one game once in a while and if I do any video, it isn't much.
Yup, my Air never even warms up - never game on it, never social media, never design 3D design renderings, etc...

Just an email, text, and phone device.

If I really want to stress it, I'd use my Mac Studio Max.
 
Such FLIR images are mostly just visual click bait. Any electronic device like a smart phone will of course show uneven temperature readings across the device surface.
Depends on how uneven it is and how those heated areas are felt from touch. Whether the FLIR image is for click bait or not, people using iPhone Air will feel the temperature. It is another matter whether such temperature worries them or not though.
 
Yup, my Air never even warms up - never game on it, never social media, never design 3D design renderings, etc...

Just an email, text, and phone device.

If I really want to stress it, I'd use my Mac Studio Max.
Yeah, such usage will never cause iPhone Air to overheat, hence no problem whatsoever.

Meanwhile, me browsing this forum can already feel the back of my iPhone 16 Pro Max a bit warm.
 
The iPhone 17 layout also shows a thermal hotspot. In fact, this was a problem with all past iPhones.

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Somehow it's being framed as a problem for Air specifically.
Yes, the hotspot is a problem for previous iPhones. I can clearly feel the hotspot on my iPhone 16 pro max when just reading manga sometimes. iPhone Air doesn’t have that Vapor chamber thing so people naturally worry more about its thermal than iPhone 17 Pro Max.
 
Posts like this seem to support the idea that the usual customers who purchase Pro model phones for their “looks” instead of function are angry that Apple took that away this year and applied it to the iPhone Air. These sort of negative posts do nothing to contribute to device discussion other than to come off like a child comparing whose toy is better.
Yeah, the posturing this year is kinda weird tbh. Lots of people justifying their purchases and trying to put down the other phones in the process.

Just buy what you like and what you think will work the best! If anything, I think some of the frustration is also because usually they don't have to choose between looks and function and this year they do. Part of the reason I didn't go for a Pro or Pro Max is bc of the weight and look, I'm fully aware that they have better features etc.
 
Yes, the hotspot is a problem for previous iPhones. I can clearly feel the hotspot on my iPhone 16 pro max when just reading manga sometimes. iPhone Air doesn’t have that Vapor chamber thing so people naturally worry more about its thermal than iPhone 17 Pro Max.
It's ridiculous that reading a manga heats your phone. I've been watching OnlyFans on iPhone for years. For some reason it always heated up during iOS16. It caused a reduction of battery healthy by 7% in 6 months.

Then they released a new update in iOS17. Watching OnlyFans did not heat up the phone at all, same high quality.

What I want to say with this is that the code is just a mess in iOS or they tried new code to heat up phones quicker, degrading battery and forcing upgrades.
 
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People aren’t talking enough about the vapor chamber. Give it two months and the iPhone Air’s components will start slowing down. The iPhone 17 Pro’s vapor chamber is the real game-changer—it keeps the phone running fast, all the time and indefinitely.

All the iPhone Air buyers will be regretting their decision.
Wrong, compare the pronwith the normal 17 and you will see there is no such diff
 
This is another topic where the OP realized that made a huge Mistake and ran away from his own topic
 
It's ridiculous that reading a manga heats your phone. I've been watching OnlyFans on iPhone for years. For some reason it always heated up during iOS16. It caused a reduction of battery healthy by 7% in 6 months.

Then they released a new update in iOS17. Watching OnlyFans did not heat up the phone at all, same high quality.

What I want to say with this is that the code is just a mess in iOS or they tried new code to heat up phones quicker, degrading battery and forcing upgrades.
People are likely reading manga for long periods of time though. Only fans is probably in 2 minute spurts. 🤣
 
And do you have actual measurable data to support this claim?

That's actually what I'm alluding to. Theories are one thing but it seems people are banking on theories without proof.
MacRumors slowly becomes Reddit. I see too many instances of „likely”, „supposedly”, „seems like” these days. The whole discourse turns to nothing, really.

Gotta find a term that explains this kind of urge to comment nonsense.
 
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People aren’t talking enough about the vapor chamber. Give it two months and the iPhone Air’s components will start slowing down. The iPhone 17 Pro’s vapor chamber is the real game-changer—it keeps the phone running fast, all the time and indefinitely.

All the iPhone Air buyers will be regretting their decision.
Which components specifically? Why would anything slow down in 2 months as you say?
Unless you have new information that no one else has, this is just guessing.

I bought a new Pro Max.
But I think most people who bought the Air are happy now and they’ll be happy in 2 months.
 
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