I mean I get it. You don’t want Apple to take over another area and have them charge 30% for charging for an AC subscription in the future
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These Apple CarPlay Ultra Partners Now Say They Won't Support It
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CarPlay is must.
CarPlay Ultra is not.
I prefer my car manufacturer handle everything except the infotainment system (they all suck at that).
CarPlay Ultra is not.
I prefer my car manufacturer handle everything except the infotainment system (they all suck at that).
Overreach is that every automaker nowadays puts LCD displays instead of real, analog dashboard elements. I want real tachometer and speedometer, not OLED displays. Sick and tired of this tesla-fication (or better to say, tesla-f**kation) of everything everywhere. Modern cars don’t even have adequate transmission, you have to click knobs and buttons to get it into neutral, parking, drive and reverse🤦♂️
On the other hand, I never look at dashboard so why should I care🤷♂️
Eyes on the road, not on the screens!
There must be some legal pushback against all of this, I doubt it is “good and healthy” in terms of road safety
On the other hand, I never look at dashboard so why should I care🤷♂️
Eyes on the road, not on the screens!
There must be some legal pushback against all of this, I doubt it is “good and healthy” in terms of road safety
This exactly.
I'd prefer my car to focus on being a car and allow me to charge my phone and play audio via the USB cable AS WELL AS bluetooth. Once that is sorted then I can think about bells and whistles.
Having said that my car is so much more about driving than it is connectivity that I may still buy it even if there was no bluetooth and I had to use a handsfree phone kit in one, (not both), ears.
I have CarPlay in my 2023 Audi Q4 and enjoy using it, *but* I went with Audi's own Navigation and mapping because it is (here in Germany) better than what Apple offers - I have photo-realistic maps and better quality of data.
If Apple can compete with that, I will try Apple's mapping, instead of the default Audi one. But for now, the Audi maps are just better for my needs.
CarPlay has a place for me, I use it daily for streaming my media and tunes from Apple Music.
If Apple can compete with that, I will try Apple's mapping, instead of the default Audi one. But for now, the Audi maps are just better for my needs.
CarPlay has a place for me, I use it daily for streaming my media and tunes from Apple Music.
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After owning an Audi for nearly two years, I am still occasionally having trouble wirelessly connecting the Audi system to CarPlay. Audi auto updates their system, and then I randomly get connection issues. I think it has to do with the way their iPhone app handles the wifi connection inside the car, but am really only guessing. I end up having to connect using USB, and then reconfigure everything (trash the Bluetooth device and wifi settings and then redo them). It makes me never want to buy an Audi again. I have wondered if it is intentional (so I pay for Audi navigation). I never had these problems with my Toyota, Honda and BMW.
Probably for marketing reasons. In Audis they wanna maintain grip over infotainment, and when it comes to their premium sport rust buckets they know those gotta be owned by people who are all-in Apple ecosystem: young, rich, hyped for everything new. Since price is already high, they know they won’t lose a eurocent by allowing Apple more control over ECU
There's a major shift in Europe right now to move away from US software titans towards developing their own software solutions.
I thought a majority of you would actually want Apple CarPlay. I know I do; I never really had 'new' cars so been thinking about one recently and to be able to have CarPlay is a selling point for me. For sure, I want regular CarPlay, but Ultra I definitely wouldn't mind.
I also think a lot of this boils down to money (as always); like when BMW wanted to charge for heated seats as a monthly subscription. I dont know when, but I know at some point the whole car feature set, options to change things on your screen like apple is offering will probably become a paid feature. Idk, just thinking out loud.
I also think a lot of this boils down to money (as always); like when BMW wanted to charge for heated seats as a monthly subscription. I dont know when, but I know at some point the whole car feature set, options to change things on your screen like apple is offering will probably become a paid feature. Idk, just thinking out loud.
Not all of them. The ux and overall interface/implementation in my Teslas is amazing and worlds better than carplay
My wife drove Teslas for years. I never cared for UI and she doesn't miss it.
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This is bad news. I just hope Apple can scale back the functionality so that this moves forward. My Benz system is pretty bad, but at least the basic systems work. The navigation is weak. I can't imagine who would Let Apple take total control, but apparently not everyone has jumped ship yet.
They will.
They will.
I honestly just don't see how it will work with all these different dashes that offer different experiences. I have a vehicle that has supercruise (which is awesome) but I depend on the dash while I'm using it to make lane changes and give me alerts that are very specific to SuperCruise. Would Apple be able to integrate that into their dash or does everyone just get the same carplay ultra dashboard.
On the other hand, I drive a Tesla and couldn't disagree more strongly on this. Until a few months ago, the lack of CarPlay was my biggest issue with the car and the reason I was likely to go with a different brand next time around.
I ditched my Tesla and bought a new Civic just for CarPlay. Finally got so sick of the non-CarPlay UI.
I'll never get another car without CarPlay. As for ultra... Whatever.
I'll never get another car without CarPlay. As for ultra... Whatever.
They don't want to give up control of revenue from services and selling user data. That's the whole reason.
And I still don't care - I refuse to rely on a solution that works half the time and bugs out another especially over wireless. Used carplay a handful of times only to realize it's dangerous as I am taking my eyes off the road too much. What works 100% of the time? Set my route and press go, put the iPhone on the Magsafe holder and audio plays through my airpods in transparency mode.
I pay a subscription for my app that has live updates and routes me around congestions and that's really all I need. I don't want the entertainment display crap and for incoming calls I can press the stem on the Airpods to accept without taking my eyes off the road at all.
It's safer for driving and really Just Works.
There is also the debate of privacy issues with carplay because the car manufacturer actually does get some extra information and shares that with insurance such as innocent-looking things like whether you've been in a call at the moment of an accident. It's no longer tinfoil alarmist fantasy but commonplace that insurers look for ways to get out of paying out claims and can get access to such data.
I pay a subscription for my app that has live updates and routes me around congestions and that's really all I need. I don't want the entertainment display crap and for incoming calls I can press the stem on the Airpods to accept without taking my eyes off the road at all.
It's safer for driving and really Just Works.
The only digital display I accept that my older model got is the speedometer because quite frankly it's the easiest to read for my aging eyes. It's black and white and certainly no OLED. The entertainment LCD in the middle is covered with my Magsafe holder.
There is also the debate of privacy issues with carplay because the car manufacturer actually does get some extra information and shares that with insurance such as innocent-looking things like whether you've been in a call at the moment of an accident. It's no longer tinfoil alarmist fantasy but commonplace that insurers look for ways to get out of paying out claims and can get access to such data.
That's why you get a car system that isn't cell/internet connected.
I disconnected the cell antenna in my car a few days after I bought it, and I'll do it again on my next vehicle.
It doesn't, but it keeps car companies from gathering/monetizing/selling your data.
The last thing I will do is pay for in-car services. I can’t believe how many modern cars have zero navigation without some subscription. That’s why I only rent CarPlay compatible vehicles. This is insane.
Time to revisit an Apple Car, it may be two sides of the same coin but OEMs are just doing this to be able to control the opportunities to monetize you - that being said Apple is at least 10x better at this kind of UX.
When I think down the road about integrated AI services, I'd rather have one thing that I deal with and not VW LLM, Apple LLM, etc that's contextually aware of everything from my personal perspective.
When I think down the road about integrated AI services, I'd rather have one thing that I deal with and not VW LLM, Apple LLM, etc that's contextually aware of everything from my personal perspective.