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Another limitation.

Mail only shows a limited amount of emails. It only searches for loaded emails, which makes it impossible to search for older emails. You need to be online for Mail to load older emails. Android dowloads all emails which makes it possible to search all emails on or offline.

Not a biggie for most consumers, but for business use, it could be a problem.
 
Another limitation.

Mail only shows a limited amount of emails. It only searches for loaded emails, which makes it impossible to search for older emails. You need to be online for Mail to load older emails. Android dowloads all emails which makes it possible to search all emails on or offline.

Not a biggie for most consumers, but for business use, it could be a problem.

Yes, it is. I actually like the iPad email app. It's easy to use and the display is great. But it is by no means a business level email client.
 
Things that Ipad can't do..... Nearly everything properly..

I just come back from overseas where to took the iPad as my only Internet coms device. It was frustrating to say the least.. Even the most simple tasks come up against limits..

One of the things that was a deal breaker was how finicky the iPad is about what wifi it will connect to. It just does not like a far percentage of the wifi hotspots out there. Most of the time it won't load the page to allow you to log on. I bought a 3G sim on the second day. That fixed it.
 
Things that Ipad can't do..... Nearly everything properly..

I just come back from overseas where to took the iPad as my only Internet coms device. It was frustrating to say the least.. Even the most simple tasks come up against limits..

One of the things that was a deal breaker was how finicky the iPad is about what wifi it will connect to. It just does not like a far percentage of the wifi hotspots out there. Most of the time it won't load the page to allow you to log on. I bought a 3G sim on the second day. That fixed it.

Sorry to hear about the rough experience. I have found the opposite when traveling overseas. I guess it depends on where you go and what kind of stuff you want to do with it.

Regarding wifi networks, I haven't found it to be finicky at all. In fact, I was in a coffee shop last week (in the US) connected to the wireless there and the guy next to me with his Windows laptop could not. I had the same problem there with my laptop a few months earlier as well, so I could sympathize with his plight. Obviously, something is wrong at the coffee shop. But whatever it is, it doesn't affect my iPad, and I connect fine every time.
 
Making something idiot proof often results in a hamstrung device. I've been very disappointing with what my iPad 2 can't do. I wouldn't by it again.

Please just sell it and buy an android. The iPad is not for you.

-t
 
Things that Ipad can't do..... Nearly everything properly..

I just come back from overseas where to took the iPad as my only Internet coms device. It was frustrating to say the least.. Even the most simple tasks come up against limits..

One of the things that was a deal breaker was how finicky the iPad is about what wifi it will connect to. It just does not like a far percentage of the wifi hotspots out there. Most of the time it won't load the page to allow you to log on. I bought a 3G sim on the second day. That fixed it.

I travel Internationally every month, 22 countries a year. Never have a problem connecting to wifi hot spots and have pay as you go or prepaid sim cards in 16 of these countries.

Never owned a more versatile device for connecting while on the road.

Not sure why your experience was so poor.

-t
 
Some hotspots requires you to login through your webbrowser. That could be sometimes problematic, since safari (or all other browser) does not open all browser. So far I haven't run into this ussue.

Other hotspots like the public library requires a username and a password through the wifi properties. Unless they make a specific protocol for ipad or any mobile device for that matter, you are not able to login.

Btw, i use my samsung galaxy s2 as a hotspot when i'm on the road. It works perfect with the ipad. No need for a 3g model at all. However, I've heard that you can't use your iphone (unjailbroken) as a hotspot.
 
Some hotspots requires you to login through your webbrowser. That could be sometimes problematic, since safari (or all other browser) does not open all browser. So far I haven't run into this ussue.

Other hotspots like the public library requires a username and a password through the wifi properties. Unless they make a specific protocol for ipad or any mobile device for that matter, you are not able to login.

Btw, i use my samsung galaxy s2 as a hotspot when i'm on the road. It works perfect with the ipad. No need for a 3g model at all. However, I've heard that you can't use your iphone (unjailbroken) as a hotspot.

There is a lot going on here, and we probably ought to untangle it.

Many hotspots have some type of confirmation or login page. That is true. I've never met one that caused a problem for the iPad in the US or overseas. There is no special protocol needed for the iPad. I've heard of companies with hotspots restricting them to password holders using portable devices (softbank in japan), but not ones blocking portable devices. What do you mean?

Tethering with your phone is a whole other issue, and as I understand it, this capability also has something to do with your carrier. This has nothing to do with the limitations of the iPad.
 
Some hotspots requires you to login through your webbrowser. That could be sometimes problematic, since safari (or all other browser) does not open all browser. So far I haven't run into this ussue.

Other hotspots like the public library requires a username and a password through the wifi properties. Unless they make a specific protocol for ipad or any mobile device for that matter, you are not able to login.

Btw, i use my samsung galaxy s2 as a hotspot when i'm on the road. It works perfect with the ipad. No need for a 3g model at all. However, I've heard that you can't use your iphone (unjailbroken) as a hotspot.

You can, actually, with the built in Personal Hotspot feature. You'll have to add the tethering plan on some carriers for it to work though, unlike the Android one (at least on unbranded/unlocked phones).
 
I'd love to be able to connect a USB stick through the camera connection kit. Don't know why apple doesn't want us to do that
 
I've seen the ios 5 conference and therefore certain features like not being able to delete songs and videos I haven't put it in the list.

As for push notification, they notify but they dont fetch. You still need to open the app to fetch, so you need to be online when opening the app.

As for battery life, i agree on that point. On my android device all my apps are on automatic fetch and sync every 15 minutes. That in combination with the usage of playing songs and videos really drains the battery life. So therefore, i've turned off most of the automatic sync. It's nice though to have the option.

Looking forward to ios 5
I believe you can set them to Fetch, no? Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > Fetch New Data > set frequency.
 
My iPad 2 can't keep me interested enough to charge it up regularly. Of course I have a few Android tablets and a netbook or two that suffer the same flaw. My point? These tablets aren't the end-all replacement for everything you used to do. Anyone believing they are is in for disappointment.
 
1- Jailbreak
2- Install iFile
3- There you go.

No offense intended, Bob, and you're far from alone in recommending "jailbreaking" as a solution to almost any iPad constraint or lack of features, but it's not even an option for the vast majority of iPad owners, i.e. anyone running a current version of iOS.

Even if it were, like rooting an Android device, it adds a level of potential complexity to managing the entire hardware/software package that many (i.e most) consumers do not want.

It may be that once iOS 5 is released it may be possible to jailbreak the iPad once again. However, it is obvious that Apple is devoting significant resources to plug the holes in their OS that enables jailbreaking. If I'm not mistaken, for example, it took Apple only a few weeks to plug the hole in 4.3.3 with 4.3.4.

In short, if one is willing to rely on third party hacks and devote the effort required to tinker with one's iPad on a continuing basis, jailbreaking may be an option. But that puts the iPad in the same boat as Android systems. The issue is not what an iPad may be capable of if you're willing to sacrifice features and security on the mainline of iOS development.
 
My iPad 2 can't keep me interested enough to charge it up regularly. Of course I have a few Android tablets and a netbook or two that suffer the same flaw. My point? These tablets aren't the end-all replacement for everything you used to do. Anyone believing they are is in for disappointment.

It all depends on what you do. The iPad has taken over the vast majority of work I used to do on the computer. Not everything. But, pretty close. I run the battery down to empty nearly every day.
 
- downloading a newspaper from a newspaper app only downloads when the app is open. I'm unable to switch between apps while its downloading.,
- many apps require you to open the app to fetch feeds and updates.

This is purely down to poor coding in the apps you've chosen, not the device. There's API's available for the developers to allow background downloading and for push notifications, obviously the apps you've chosen, the devs have not fully taken advantage of this.

Another limitation.

Mail only shows a limited amount of emails. It only searches for loaded emails, which makes it impossible to search for older emails. You need to be online for Mail to load older emails. Android dowloads all emails which makes it possible to search all emails on or offline.

Not a biggie for most consumers, but for business use, it could be a problem.

that's down to the email settings. If you've set it up via exchange, check the mail days to sync, set to no limit and all your emails will download. that's what i've done and all my emails are there.
 
No offense intended, Bob, and you're far from alone in recommending "jailbreaking" as a solution to almost any iPad constraint or lack of features, but it's not even an option for the vast majority of iPad owners, i.e. anyone running a current version of iOS.

Even if it were, like rooting an Android device, it adds a level of potential complexity to managing the entire hardware/software package that many (i.e most) consumers do not want.

It may be that once iOS 5 is released it may be possible to jailbreak the iPad once again. However, it is obvious that Apple is devoting significant resources to plug the holes in their OS that enables jailbreaking. If I'm not mistaken, for example, it took Apple only a few weeks to plug the hole in 4.3.3 with 4.3.4.

In short, if one is willing to rely on third party hacks and devote the effort required to tinker with one's iPad on a continuing basis, jailbreaking may be an option. But that puts the iPad in the same boat as Android systems. The issue is not what an iPad may be capable of if you're willing to sacrifice features and security on the mainline of iOS development.

For the record, I never take offence no matter how insulting. Not inviting insults, mind you. It is just very hard to offend me. And MOST CERTAINLY, your comments do not come close to offending me. We can discuss, debate, and argue sans insults and offences. Smiley.

Just wait and a reliable 4.3.4 JB will arrive. Actually, the major players are getting it done or already have done it. Actually, I am running a JB untethered on 4.3.3; the iOS update offers me nothing to get excited about because it was updated just to piss me off.

If you are willing to go tethered, Sn0wbreeze 2.3 will get it done. Redsn0w, Limerain, Greenpois0n are working hard and a reliable untethered JB will soon be here. Greenpois0n will give you an untethered JB of IOS 4.3.5.

As for Apple and their plugging of 4.3.4, a JB is out there and Apple did a terrible thing. Lots of rumbling about a JB for iOS 5. It is a given; a reliable JB for iOS 5 is just around the corner. Some say it is available now but not released because iOS 5 is beta and developers do not want Apple to plug it.

Bottom line: you can or will be able to JB any iDevice running almost any version of iOS and despite Apple's efforts, you always will be able to. Unless Apple decides enough is enough and they take drastic measures like
Microsoft is rumored to be doing with Windows 8. Not sure how that will pan out but I see lots of brilliantly lit discussion boards.

Anyway, the devs are very clever, the process of jailbreaking is a no brainer and the result is bloody well worth the small effort required to JB iDevices because Cydia can provide solutions to most problems. Not one App store but hundreds of repositories for stuff Apple will never offer.

In my opinion, every iPad user should jailbreak because it adds so much to the experience. Just my opinion. A plain Jane iPad, regardless of the iOS version is a joy and millions of happy users get by without the changes a JB offers.

That said, it is pretty hard to ignore the eye candy a great theme like Blaze gives you or complete file access and the ability to use flash drives and SD cards. That alone is why I JB my iPad.
 
Another limitation.

Mail only shows a limited amount of emails. It only searches for loaded emails, which makes it impossible to search for older emails. You need to be online for Mail to load older emails. Android dowloads all emails which makes it possible to search all emails on or offline.

Not a biggie for most consumers, but for business use, it could be a problem.

I find this very annoying also!
 
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If you are willing to go tethered, Sn0wbreeze 2.3 will get it done. Redsn0w, Limerain, Greenpois0n are working hard and a reliable untethered JB will soon be here. Greenpois0n will give you an untethered JB of IOS 4.3.5.

As for Apple and their plugging of 4.3.4, a JB is out there and Apple did a terrible thing. Lots of rumbling about a JB for iOS 5. It is a given; a reliable JB for iOS 5 is just around the corner. Some say it is available now but not released because iOS 5 is beta and developers do not want Apple to plug it.

Bottom line: you can or will be able to JB any iDevice running almost any version of iOS and despite Apple's efforts, you always will be able to. Unless Apple decides enough is enough and they take drastic measures like
Microsoft is rumored to be doing with Windows 8. Not sure how that will pan out but I see lots of brilliantly lit discussion boards.

Anyway, the devs are very clever, the process of jailbreaking is a no brainer and the result is bloody well worth the small effort required to JB iDevices because Cydia can provide solutions to most problems. Not one App store but hundreds of repositories for stuff Apple will never offer.

In my opinion, every iPad user should jailbreak because it adds so much to the experience. Just my opinion. A plain Jane iPad, regardless of the iOS version is a joy and millions of happy users get by without the changes a JB offers.

That said, it is pretty hard to ignore the eye candy a great theme like Blaze gives you or complete file access and the ability to use flash drives and SD cards. That alone is why I JB my iPad.

Bottom line. No jb for the current OS is available. And frankly, I can't imagine one being release a month or so before iOS 5 comes along. And other than rumors and rumors of rumors there's no assurance there will be a stable, long lasting jb for iOS 5. In fact, as you imply, as soon as it is available, Apple will plug the hole that enables it.

I have no quarrel with those who want to jb their apple device or root their android device. The fact remains that only a miniscule portion of users will ever do so and that tiny minority becomes a smaller and smaller percentage as these devices multiply and the OS manufacturers bulletproof them.

And if Apple and Google do take "drastic measures" to prevent such actions, discussion boards will "light up" and nothing will happen because such a tiny proportion of users care.

My original point was that citing jailbreaking as a way to overcome the limitations of iOS is no defense of iOS. That, I'd argue, is still a valid point. At this point there is no option to jailbreak the vast majority of iPads out there. And when iOS 5 comes along, my guess is that any option to jb that version will last at most a month before the entire effort has to begin again.
 
the headaches of jailbreaking far outweigh the pleasures of being coddled by apple. there is nothing i have seen in the jb community that even remotely tempts me to screw around with the device.

i turn it on, it works great, and it does everything i want it to do. i am quite pleased with the incredibly well-designed os. i have no problems with the icons being arranged in a grid pattern. i imagine most ipad users are the same.

i am not against jailbreaking. i think it is pretty cool (speaking as an observer rather than a participant). i love it when people hack things. but, is there anything the ipad can't do that is really a deal breaker for most of us? so far, i haven't encountered anything like that.
 
Bottom line. No jb for the current OS is available. And frankly, I can't imagine one being release a month or so before iOS 5 comes along. And other than rumors and rumors of rumors there's no assurance there will be a stable, long lasting jb for iOS 5. In fact, as you imply, as soon as it is available, Apple will plug the hole that enables it.

Redsn0w 0.9.9b1 will JB 4.3.5 and some JB programs will also JB 4.3.5 even though not specifically designed for their revision.

Not sure if you are entirely wrong about Apple plugging the holes. And the devs are very clever so I'll disagree and say regardless of what Apple does, there will be a way to JB your iDevice when iOS 5 drops.

Lots of users needing a JB for previous iOS releases so I will disagree, JD devs will continue to release tools that will JB devices after iOS 5 is released.

The big question is what will iOS look like. Apple is clever and I can only guess about how tight iOS 5 will be.
 
Redsn0w 0.9.9b1 will JB 4.3.5 and some JB programs will also JB 4.3.5 even though not specifically designed for their revision.

For the ORIGINAL iPad, yes, that device is permanently jailbreakable. Unless something's changed in the last week while I wasn't paying attention--in which case it should be all over these boards--this is not true for an iPad2 running stock 4.3.5. This is due to the new A5 chip, which does not have (so far) a bootrom-level exploit that can be hacked.

http://jailbrea.kr/ is run by a well known Cydia Dev, and hosted by the main architect of ultrasn0w. It lists JB options for firmware on a very easy to decipher level. They keep this site up to date; if something's changed, I would expect it to show there. Note the "non iPad 2 devices" notice near the top regarding the JB for 4.3.5.

At this point, there are likely more iPad2 models out there than originals. Firmware can't be downgraded without blobs--heck, it cant even be upgraded to anything other that current firmware--so a iPad2 user still on 4.3.2 can't go to 4.3.3 in order to JB with JBme--the only tool that works with the iPad2. So I'd tend to agree with jsh, JB isn't a viable solution to most users' problems just based on the firmware issues alone. That's setting aside all the people who aren't comfortable with it (my husband) or are technologically incapable of maintaining a jailbroken device (my mother in law). Or who can't due to corporate limitations (sister in law, who is a VP at a law firm--kinda not worth putting her job on the line to JB just so she can download/upload a file).

Obviously, I'm personally all for the JB scene as I'm well known around here for having an utter intolerance for stock iOS, but it would be simplistic to think it's the answer for everyone. I acknowledge it's not even remotely a viable option for the majority.
 
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