Think about it...

[eyelikeart]

CompUSA sucks....

I did like sparkleytone's story about their Apple guy in store...

but the CompUSA here is the same sad story as it's always been...only now the Apple section is about 4 times the size it once was....still in the back corner.....and never a rep to help out...

too bad...

 

[mischief]

re:elevator?

Would YOU ride the elevator with a man who can, will and has interrogated employees as to what they contribute to Apple then spot-fire them if the answer isn't up to par?

He may be cool at arms length but I wouldn't want to work for him directly.

 

[networkman]

re: firing

jobs fired this one woman featured in fortune or business week that became the most prolific female dot.com guru...apparently, someone who could have really brought a lot to apple

lou gerstner of ibm also fired this person

...and now she is the richest woman in the world next to queen elizabeth

like hp and ibm before them not believing in the pc in the 70s, apple fired this person mainly because they thought there was nothing that big to the internet (but, in hindsight after the dot.com bust, maybe they were right...ha ha ha)

 

[sparkleytone]

Re: re:elevator?

Originally posted by mischief
Would YOU ride the elevator with a man who can, will and has interrogated employees as to what they contribute to Apple then spot-fire them if the answer isn't up to par?

He may be cool at arms length but I wouldn't want to work for him directly.

that's exactly what kind of company i want to work for; a company that expects goal-oriented people who are motivated and always driving to succeed.

it sickens me as a 20yrs young person to see that people expect special consideration or rewards for doing what they are SUPPOSED to do. i want to work for a company that expects at LEAST as much as i expect from myself. if i was on the elevator and my boss came to me and asked what my job was etc, and i didn't have an answer, then i truly question whether or not that job is correct for me.

anyways i am again sick and tired of the lazy masses whining and complaining that their job is so unique in its pressure, expectation, boredom, pick one. do your job and expect the same from others and you will go far, not because you deserve special recognition, but because others don't.


and no, not even working for a company as shi**y as Comp can skew my beliefs. what goes around comes around and you reap what you sow.

 

[eyelikeart]

Re: re:elevator?

Originally posted by mischief
Would YOU ride the elevator with a man who can, will and has interrogated employees as to what they contribute to Apple then spot-fire them if the answer isn't up to par?

He may be cool at arms length but I wouldn't want to work for him directly.

no thanks...

life's too short to deal with bs like that.....fear of losing one's job just because their boss is on a powertrip....

 

[networkman]

re: sparkleytone

what you say sounds so typical of an idealistic 20 year old...come on, man...i mean, boy! when i was your age, i didn't get drafted but still found myself going to a warzone due to my idealism...i am lucky i didn't get myself killed

wait until you have been in the working world 24 years like me to realize that the world is not like the army...be all that you can be

people pass the buck, they backstab, and they climb the ladder in a man-eater shark orgy and that is the real world...not some happy ending movie of the week

my point in my last post is that jobs fired a person who could have helped apple cash in on the dot.com thing, but it would have been hard to time it correctly

but ebay and some others played the rise and fall of the internet revolution very well and came out very strong in the end like i believe apple would have done if they had given the internet a chance

jobs is good and he is bad for apple and history shows his mecurial business nature (ie - apple recovering from the mid-90s, apple falling in the stock market to an all time low, the success of the imac, the failure of the cube)

sj is "rollercoasterman" and sometimes he genuinely scares me...a ceo can only fail after he succeeds so many times before his failures creep up on him and bites him in the ass once and for all

 

[sparkleytone]

i may be young and inexperienced, but i am anything but idealistic. unlike so many people i did not grow up with a silver spoon in my butt and i try in earnest to realize and appreciate what i am given in life.

when it comes to my beliefs, i know what i know and believe what i do because everyday i can look at my father and see them validated. the only things my father does in his business is do what he says hes going to do when he says hes going to do it, and continually strive to make his company's workmanship, reputation, and consumer relations better. my father expects the same from his employees...EVERY day. if they fail at this, they lose their jobs. guess what?? his customers are always happy, unless they are used to taking advantage of people. why do people stay with my father's company??? he pays better than most anyone else and he takes care of his employees. maybe he has fired some people that have gone on to be successful, but that is "the real world".

real life experience is something i trust way more than the textual jaded view of someone i do not know. sorry hatman, but if i am "idealistic" then you are "cynical"

 

[networkman]

re: cynical

i am not saying that idealism is bad, just unrealistic

but i do know that the idealism of the young generation of the 60s produced some of the greatest political, cultural, and musical steps forward in society

i am cynical but i have still hung on to my core beliefs except for thinking that mankind is generally good

mankind is not generally bad either but somewhere in between and a bit of the cynical keeps one in touch with what is going on from day to day and it is a way to survive in the real world

i used to hate what i viewed as hardline cynics who were older and more experienced than me and seemed a little bit too conservative and unfeeling but i was warned i would become more moderate and not be a liberal (or conservative) idealist my whole life

as far as your dad's company, ask him again what is the number one reason people get fired...it will more likely be due to financial or personal reasons more than being that someone is not doing their 100 percent best

i actually never heard of anyone getting fired for that or anything related to that...people get fired mostly because of lack of funds in one time or another in a company's history...just look at corporate layoffs in america (and here is a cynical statement...it's not because business cares about people, business cares about money and that is the bottom line which is the only truth when you are dealing with dollars and cents)

as much as i wanted to say they 9oloder cynics) were wrong, i was wrong and there is nothing like having life kick you in the teeth a few times to give you a more realistic perspective

and no matter how sheltered or rich you become, you will go through a few set of teeth that will need replacing from time to time when they get kicked out...that is normal and that is life