Think iOS 10 is gonna be huge for iPad?

[Ghost31]

With tablet sales declining and Apple pushing the pro as "it's awesome and might replace a laptop for some people", do you think iOS 10 will be absolutely HUGE for Apple and the iPad? I was a little shocked at the iPad pro keynote how Apple didn't really show why anybody should get a pro over anything else. Because it's a bigger screen? That's nice. But a lot of people are looking for added functionality when "pro" is in the name. It would've made sense for Apple to show off a pro app made for iPad that we would the otherwise see on a desktop. Final Cut Pro X, logic, real photoshop or hell...Xcode! How awesome would that be to make iPad apps on an actual iPad? That would be like the best example Apple could have that this is a professional tablet!

I feel like the pro keynote was a missed opportunity, but that Apple does things the way Apple wants. I wouldn't be surprised if their logic was "let's put it out there and let developers see what they can do with it and just when reviewers are complaining about how it can't replace a laptop because of this or that functionality, boom! We drop iOS 10 and blow everybody's minds with the advancements we have made closing the gaps in functionality between tablet and real desktop OS".

Just say all that in Tim cooks voice and it sounds better...

 

[VesselA]

the unique and selling feature to me is the stylus, for art and drawing - I couldn't justify the best part of a grand on just a bigger iPad, but as a graphics tablet it is worth it if the pen is really precise and good.

iOS 10 would make a big stride if it simply allow you to access and organise all of your files in a file browser - hopefully they will add that, even if its just for the pro alone.

 

[ValO]

All Apple needs to do for future iOS versions is :

-allow even more apps to open at the same time. 4 Windows would be nice.
-allow multiwindow in landscape.
-allow account switching by touchid.
-adding 3D touch with shortcuts as a sort of right mouse button click.
-add a native filemanaging app.
-update the look/ui of iOS on the iPad ( pro) less space between the apps, more controll of layout of the apps, etc.
-add trackpad support for external smart keyboard(covers) , for email and apps like ms word, etc.

If they add these features, there would not be a reason to buy a Mac though.
Then it will all be up to the apps and needed screen suze to decide whether to buy a Mac or iPad pro.

 

[itbeme]

All Apple needs to do for future iOS versions is :

-allow even more apps to open at the same time. 4 Windows would be nice.
-allow multiwindow in landscape.
-allow account switching by touchid.
-adding 3D touch with shortcuts as a sort of right mouse button click.
-add a native filemanaging app.
-update the look/ui of iOS on the iPad ( pro) less space between the apps, more controll of layout of the apps, etc.
-add trackpad support for external smart keyboard(covers) , for email and apps like ms word, etc.

If they add these features, there would not be a reason to buy a Mac though.
Then it will all be up to the apps and needed screen suze to decide whether to buy a Mac or iPad pro.

I'll way add (many) More keyboard shortcuts. À large Number of programmable keyboard shortcuts (such as has Logic Pro X), and you close the mouse/no mouse gap, significantly.

Most of the challenges cited are solvable with software. The hardware is powerful enough already. Agreed, they've launched the platform. It's all on the development side now.

 

[ApfelKuchen]

iOS 10 would make a big stride if it simply allow you to access and organise all of your files in a file browser - hopefully they will add that, even if its just for the pro alone.

Turn on iCloud Drive. You don't have to wait for iOS 10. Yeah, people are probably thinking, "I don't want to use iCloud, I want to use local storage." Well, iCloud still caches the documents on the iPad, for offline access, and (big rationalization coming) you do want all those valuable documents backed up, right?

As to whether iOS 10 is necessary for the Pro to take flight... They had me with iPad First Generation (retired my old Powerbook G4 and never looked back). I'm looking forward to moving up from iOS 5.2! Of course, I'm sure there will be stuff in iOS 10 that makes the "Pro" more "Pro." I'm not too sure about FCPX, simply because of the size of the files may FCPX users need to work with, but I suspect the pro music crowd, which has been using GarageBand on iPad far more extensively than the pro video crowd has been using iMovie, may be in line for some nice goodies.

 

[joeblow7777]

Turn on iCloud Drive. You don't have to wait for iOS 10. Yeah, people are probably thinking, "I don't want to use iCloud, I want to use local storage." Well, iCloud still caches the documents on the iPad, for offline access, and (big rationalization coming) you do want all those valuable documents backed up, right?

But what if you don't your files on the Cloud? And let's not forget having to pay if you want more than 5 GB of storage.

 

[bensisko]

I'm VERY curious as to WHY people want a file manager on iOS.

I admit, I have my own bias, but the way it works now is pretty great - it's Task Centric rather than File Centric. For me, I couldn't give two flips as to how my files are orgainized - I just want to open the application and see the files I'm working on. If I want to draw, I open Sketchbook and there are my Sketchbook files - no need to worry about what will and won't open in which application. Same thing if I want to work on my Presentation - Open PowerPoint and there's my presentation files.

I seriously have a hard time seeing what advantage a File Manager would be. I'm not saying this to be critical, I'm just saying I have a lack of understanding. For me, one of the best things iOS has ever done was to free me from having to think about File Management. I just see it, like the "desktop", as an outdated metaphor for dealing with digital devices.

 

[Nausicaa]

I think it could be, but iOS 9 already added quite a bit and it really shines on iPad Pro. I don't have too many more features I'd really want, but among them are:

1. Ability to open multiple instances of apps in split view.
2. Expanded cross-app functionality from splitview (drag and drop, color sampling, cut and paste, etc.)
3. File manager of some kind, although I get confused when I think how it would look or work.
4. MORE DYNAMIC WALLPAPERS! Why do we still only get glowing orbs as the only option!?

 

[Nausicaa]

I'm VERY curious as to WHY people want a file manager on iOS.

I think the issue now is things are very app specific. If you want to work on a project, say, and it involves files from multiple apps, or files you might want to work on and edit across multiple apps, it would be nice to have some app-independent way to organize the files.

 

[Newtons Apple]

They said 9 was going to be a huge leap . . . live images do nothing for me.

Apple seems to refuse to give us a files system we can use properly. It is why I got to go with the Surface Pro 4

 

[Marshall73]

They said 9 was going to be a huge leap . . . live images do nothing for me.

Apple seems to refuse to give us a files system we can use properly. It is why I got to go with the Surface Pro 4

Nothing would make me go with Windows, plus, as good as the surface is a laptop it's a mediocre tablet. iPad pro, MacBook Pro and 27" iMac cover all of the bases for me.

 

[laudern]

Maybe it will be called ios x????

 

[PBG4 Dude]

I thought iOS 4 was going to be huge for the iPad, LOL.

 

[bowlman2345]

I always thought OS XI would be the merge between iOS and OS X into one platform for both touch devices and/or desktop usage...sort of like Windows 10, but better optimized for touch/tablet functionality.

But who knows?

 

[Newtons Apple]

Nothing would make me go with Windows, plus, as good as the surface is a laptop it's a mediocre tablet. iPad pro, MacBook Pro and 27" iMac cover all of the bases for me.

I am not asking you to go with either but if you are in the field and NEED a tablet I will take the Surface Pro any day as the iPad Pro could not run AutoCad or Quickbooks. The Surface Pro is a real computer, mediocre or not. The iPad/iPad Pro are just tablets but I love them for doing the Internet in my lap! My Pro replaced my Air 2.

 

[DJLAXL]

I think its more the developers that are making apps than anything. So many apps don't take advantage of everything that Apple offers. My bank app for instance is so stone age. Not even updated for the 3X retina images after 2 years. No Touch ID to log in. I think if developers made everything iCloud compatible then it would work....like if we draw something in a sketch app...allow us to be able to save the drawing as a jpeg or something and throw it in iCloud or store it somewhere and pick it up to view on our phones or macs or something. That is the benefit of having access to the file system, but at the same time it can be done so much easier. Time to start putting restrictions in place for app approvals if you ask me. The Pro won't replace or be an extension of the Mac ecosystem until it gets "Pro" features. I love mine, don't get me wrong, but I actually traded my 2012 15" retina for one with cash after I stopped DJ-ing. Sadly I was hoping for a little more bang, but it is a first gen product and hopefully iOS 10 will bring a lot to the table. C'est la vie....

 

[engineerben]

It's possible that something before IOS10 will improve life on the IPP. I'm looking forward to IOS9.2 (not running the public beta, for better or worse). But IOS10 could do a few things better...

• Add more information (maybe widgets?) to the lock screen. Sometimes, I wake the iPad just to check notifications. It's be nice if I could see weather, traffic, stocks, top news, etc. without unlocking the device and opening individual apps. I know I can pull down from the top and get that information, but hey, it's one more (unnecessary) operation! Note that I'm talking about the lock screen, not the home screen. Keep the home screen clean!
• In order to put to rest the talk of a file system, maybe have a common place where users could expose their files - call it the commons. Files in the commons could be opened by any compatible application. You could create folders if you want - the commons would need its own application. Yes, it's kinda like iCloud files, but without the internet overhead.
• The 5X4 arrangement of the home screen icons is fine for me, but may be too sparse for some. Make that a setting - 5X4, or 7X5. Right now, under Display and Brightness you can choose a zoomed view - useful for those with reduced visual acuity. Maybe also have a "condensed" view that would provide more icons on the screen.
• Better split-view support. I hate the endless list of applications for the right pane. A better chooser would be wonderful. And how about an easy way to swap the panes - maybe I want to change the application in the left pane and leave the right pane in place!

Well, those are just a few ideas that wouldn't break the whole IOS paradigm but would improve life (at least for me!)

 

[itbeme]

They said 9 was going to be a huge leap . . . live images do nothing for me.

Apple seems to refuse to give us a files system we can use properly. It is why I got to go with the Surface Pro 4

Have a file system already on my iPad.
Box.com - exact to the folder, mirror of what I have in the cloud -and on my Mac. Same file tree. All 100% locked and in sync across all devices.

Done

 

[Newtons Apple]

Have a file system already on my iPad.
Box.com - exact to the folder, mirror of what I have in the cloud -and on my Mac. Same file tree. All 100% locked and in sync across all devices.

Done

Good for you!

Just another "work around".

 

[mw360]

I'm VERY curious as to WHY people want a file manager on iOS.

I admit, I have my own bias, but the way it works now is pretty great - it's Task Centric rather than File Centric. For me, I couldn't give two flips as to how my files are orgainized - I just want to open the application and see the files I'm working on. If I want to draw, I open Sketchbook and there are my Sketchbook files - no need to worry about what will and won't open in which application. Same thing if I want to work on my Presentation - Open PowerPoint and there's my presentation files.

I seriously have a hard time seeing what advantage a File Manager would be. I'm not saying this to be critical, I'm just saying I have a lack of understanding. For me, one of the best things iOS has ever done was to free me from having to think about File Management. I just see it, like the "desktop", as an outdated metaphor for dealing with digital devices.

Yep, I agree. Although I fear Apple has lost its vision and may soon cave.

 

[sdz]

Good for you!

Just another "work around".

Exactly. God forbids if box.com decides to shut down their services...

 

[Newtons Apple]

I'm VERY curious as to WHY people want a file manager on iOS.

I admit, I have my own bias, but the way it works now is pretty great - it's Task Centric rather than File Centric. For me, I couldn't give two flips as to how my files are orgainized - I just want to open the application and see the files I'm working on. If I want to draw, I open Sketchbook and there are my Sketchbook files - no need to worry about what will and won't open in which application. Same thing if I want to work on my Presentation - Open PowerPoint and there's my presentation files.

I seriously have a hard time seeing what advantage a File Manager would be. I'm not saying this to be critical, I'm just saying I have a lack of understanding. For me, one of the best things iOS has ever done was to free me from having to think about File Management. I just see it, like the "desktop", as an outdated metaphor for dealing with digital devices.

If you work in the field where no wifi or cellular is available and you want access to over 4500 contracts for you customers and you can not access any of them. With my Surface Pro 4 I can use DropBox and it will download every files onto my Surface. With the iPad I am out of luck.

 

[JonSarge3108]

If you work in the field where no wifi or cellular is available and you want access to over 4500 contracts for you customers and you can not access any of them. With my Surface Pro 4 I can use DropBox and it will download every files onto my Surface. With the iPad I am out of luck.

With iOS you can use Dropbox and Documents and it would sync them all exactly the same?

Yes - it could be called a workaround. Could also be called a different workflow for a different operating system.

 

[hagalah]

Just give me mouse support on ipad pro. That's all I need.

But it would be faster to wait ios 9 JB than epxect Apple to put these features into IOS 10.

With tablet sales declining and Apple pushing the pro as "it's awesome and might replace a laptop for some people", do you think iOS 10 will be absolutely HUGE for Apple and the iPad? I was a little shocked at the iPad pro keynote how Apple didn't really show why anybody should get a pro over anything else. Because it's a bigger screen? That's nice. But a lot of people are looking for added functionality when "pro" is in the name. It would've made sense for Apple to show off a pro app made for iPad that we would the otherwise see on a desktop. Final Cut Pro X, logic, real photoshop or hell...Xcode! How awesome would that be to make iPad apps on an actual iPad? That would be like the best example Apple could have that this is a professional tablet!

I feel like the pro keynote was a missed opportunity, but that Apple does things the way Apple wants. I wouldn't be surprised if their logic was "let's put it out there and let developers see what they can do with it and just when reviewers are complaining about how it can't replace a laptop because of this or that functionality, boom! We drop iOS 10 and blow everybody's minds with the advancements we have made closing the gaps in functionality between tablet and real desktop OS".

Just say all that in Tim cooks voice and it sounds better...

 

[Newtons Apple]

With iOS you can use Dropbox and Documents and it would sync them all exactly the same?

Yes - it could be called a workaround. Could also be called a different workflow for a different operating system.

DropBox will not do this on an iPad. It does do it on a Surface Pro 4.

I need all the contracts and other documents stored on the device as many times we have no cellular or internet connection.