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hello, I currently have a 2016 15” MacBook Pro, full spec in my signature. I am starting to become unhappy with it. First generation issues and such. So, I am looking to possibly move back to an iMac. Haven’t owned one since 2010. What issues are they having, if any? Thanks Tim
 
hello, I currently have a 2016 15” MacBook Pro, full spec in my signature. I am starting to become unhappy with it. First generation issues and such. So, I am looking to possibly move back to an iMac. Haven’t owned one since 2010. What issues are they having, if any? Thanks Tim



Apple "bought back" my 2016 MBP 15" due to the well known keyboard issues.

I replaced it with a 27" iMac i7 with the 580 and SSD along with a new MacBook Air.

Couldn't be happier!

I won't risk another MBP unless I know the issues are resolved. Almost everyone I know has had keyboard problems. Of course, this is not as elegant as a one-laptop-to-do-it-all, but I'm enjoying it!

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Apple "bought back" my 2016 MBP 15" due to the well known keyboard issues.

I replaced it with a 27" iMac i7 with the 580 and SSD along with a new MacBook Air.

Couldn't be happier!

I won't risk another MBP unless I know the issues are resolved. Almost everyone I know has had keyboard problems. Of course, this is not as elegant as a one-laptop-to-do-it-all, but I'm enjoying it!

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How were you able to get them to buy it back and how long did you have the MBP for? I'm trying to review my options as well. Thanks.
 
How were you able to get them to buy it back and how long did you have the MBP for? I'm trying to review my options as well. Thanks.



I bought it February. The keyboard started to fail 5 weeks ago while working on a film here in LA. It was a disaster and I really went after them.

Unfortunately for them, 2 techs initially admitted that the new keyboards are prone to failure, can't handle much dust and debris and were not (in their view) tested enough prior to release. The folks at the Apple Store readily said the same, even telling me that they had returned their units. The last thing I wanted was another MBP of any kind.

I told them that I'd stay with Apple, but I expected a full refund. They actually went beyond that and I got extra money in the deal. Out of shear bad luck, my new iMac 27" i7 with 2 TB FD had a bad memory slot. I wasn't too thrilled, but they upgraded me to a 512 SSD at no charge and threw in a Apple TV.

So...all is well (arg last), and I spent more money, so Apple is probably happy too!


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I bought it February. The keyboard started to fail 5 weeks ago while working on a film here in LA. It was a disaster and I really went after them.

Unfortunately for them, 2 techs initially admitted that the new keyboards are prone to failure, can't handle much dust and debris and were not (in their view) tested enough prior to release. The folks at the Apple Store readily said the same, even telling me that they had returned their units. The last thing I wanted was another MBP of any kind.

I told them that I'd stay with Apple, but I expected a full refund. They actually went beyond that and I got extra money in the deal. Out of shear bad luck, my new iMac 27" i7 with 2 TB FD had a bad memory slot. I wasn't too thrilled, but they upgraded me to a 512 SSD at no charge and threw in a Apple TV.

So...all is well (arg last), and I spent more money, so Apple is probably happy too!


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Interesting story - thanks for sharing.

The best keyboard by far is the Magic Keyboard. Has a fantastic crisp feel and the perfect amount of key travel.
 
Interesting story - thanks for sharing.

The best keyboard by far is the Magic Keyboard. Has a fantastic crisp feel and the perfect amount of key travel.



I can't use keyboards that are not backlit. I use the Logitech instead. The magic keyboard needs to be updated.

I was so bummed by the new MBP as it was my favorite laptop ever. I loved the new keyboard. Then the B key started double typing. A few days later the space bar only worked on one side. Most common failures are either top or bottom keys. But I'll buy another MBP when they redesign the keyboard.


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Many people report the i7 version of the 2017 iMac has noticeable/loud fan noise when under load. I just got the i5 and haven't noticed any fan noise at all.
 
anyway at least you got backup laptop on travel.. I also got imac with 2 monitor and acer laptop on the go...most my friend suggest over new macbook
 
They’re fairly new, so long-term observations aren’t in, but most folks seem happy. The displays are brilliant,a don’t the SSD’s are fast. Minor complaints include some fan noise and the fact that RAM & optical drive are a money grab. Also, while the 27” doesn’t have user-replaceable RAM, the 21” does not. Otherwise, great machines.
 
Many people report the i7 version of the 2017 iMac has noticeable/loud fan noise when under load. I just got the i5 and haven't noticed any fan noise at all.
Can anyone be surprised that I7’s run hot? I guess “many people” ;)
 
Many people report the i7 version of the 2017 iMac has noticeable/loud fan noise when under load. I just got the i5 and haven't noticed any fan noise at all.



I've only heard the fans on the i7 running a couple of times and I had about 30 RAW files processing and was watching a movie on the other screen to make that happen.

I don't know who these OCD people are who are bothered by fan noise. My Hellcat also makes more noise than my Mercedes.


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For me, the "noisy issue" is not an issue. It's obvious that the computer gets hot durning performing heavy tasks. It's still less noisy than my old PC laptops (Asus, Sony Vaio) or my old white MacBook. Most of the time, the machine is quiet. And it is incredible fast, opens Photoshop or Premiere immediately, rendering Full HD footage fast (I'm not recording at 4K yet) and this screen, man! The screen is so beautiful, the best in the class!
 
thanks everyone for giving some input into the iMac. Still on the fence about selling my 15" MacBook Pro. I love this laptop. don't have the keyboard issue and my display is near perfect. Just concerned about the keys rubbing against the screen over a long period of time, popping noise, and the possible screen crack some users are experiencing.
 
thanks everyone for giving some input into the iMac. Still on the fence about selling my 15" MacBook Pro. I love this laptop. don't have the keyboard issue and my display is near perfect. Just concerned about the keys rubbing against the screen over a long period of time, popping noise, and the possible screen crack some users are experiencing.



At some point you will have keyboard issues. My friends have all fallen victim, one by one. Just a matter of time.
I'd sell it.


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I've only heard the fans on the i7 running a couple of times and I had about 30 RAW files processing and was watching a movie on the other screen to make that happen.

I don't know who these OCD people are who are bothered by fan noise. My Hellcat also makes more noise than my Mercedes.


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Or it could be that their fans are actually louder than yours. Or that their environment is quieter.

Not sure why so many folks are so egocentric and dogmatic on here.
 
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Many people report the i7 version of the 2017 iMac has noticeable/loud fan noise when under load. I just got the i5 and haven't noticed any fan noise at all.

I've seen no credible reports that the 2017 i7 iMac 27 is any louder than the similar 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012 models. I have the 2017 and 2015 i7 models on my desk, side by side. I can't tell any major difference except the 2017 is 200% faster at transcoding H264 in FCPX than the 2015 i7 model.

Of course if people are new to 27" i7 iMacs or haven't had one since 2012, they may think the 2017 model is somehow drastically louder -- it is not.

This doesn't mean the 2017 i7 iMac 27 is whisper quiet under all conditions. If you do sustained multi-core high-CPU operations the fan will definitely be heard. But it's not dramatically different than past i7 iMacs back to 2012.
 
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I bought a base-model 2017 27" w/ 512GB SSD (i5 / 570). Threw some 3rd party RAM in it for a total 48GB. Zero issues with it. I'm using it for FCP X and Photos, meets my expectations in performance. I often have the CPU working hard and it never gets loud, my external hard drives drown out the sound of the iMac itself (I have the base i5, so this is expected of course, i7 may be different).

I'm not a fan of all-in-ones and I wish it had Target Display Mode since I use my work laptop at home sometimes, but this is the best desktop Mac you can buy from Apple right now IMO.
 
Or it could be that their fans are actually louder than yours. Or that their environment is quieter.

Not sure why so many folks are so egocentric and dogmatic on here.



Nope. I'm working in Hollywood with many of these machines in varying configurations. Never heard of anyone upset about fan noise, not once. My main system is in my office. You can hear a pin drop...a small pin. I have heard the fans a few times. It did not set the neighborhood dogs barking.


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Nope. I'm working in Hollywood with many of these machines in varying configurations. Never heard of anyone upset about fan noise, not once. My main system is in my office. You can hear a pin drop...a small pin. I have heard the fans a few times. It did not set the neighborhood dogs barking.


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So long as it isn’t a large pin.

And we’re all well aware that you’re in Hollywood, and you’re a screen writer, and you’re a photographer, and you do feature films, and your friends work on multi-million dollar projects. You’ve alluded to it quite often. :cool:
 
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So long as it isn’t a large pin.

And we’re all well aware that you’re in Hollywood, and you’re a screen writer, and you’re a photographer, and you do feature films, and your friends work on multi-million dollar projects. You’ve alluded to it quite often. :cool:
It is job, my job not multi million to buy max up all imac.. Just get work done and continue..

Event my friend photographer not all stupid braging 4k picture /video because if the customer price pay cheap what you expected 10k imac?

Got one client of my friend keep braging 4k need one need one, but actually couldn't even afford a stabilizer for camera.. Camera video shaking with his proud go pro, yi cam.

So the conclusion, it's his client not yours and yours may have much better ,simpler client requirement..
 
So long as it isn’t a large pin.

And we’re all well aware that you’re in Hollywood, and you’re a screen writer, and you’re a photographer, and you do feature films, and your friends work on multi-million dollar projects. You’ve alluded to it quite often. :cool:



And your point is what exactly? Yes, I was a still photographer and still handle two jewelry clients, though I only do it as a courtesy. Yes, I just started last year as a screenwriter and have management. Yes, I'm currently working on film project and also with editors on various projects.

I still take exception to handing out bad info to buyers. The ONLY reason to buy a slower computer with a shorter lifespan is to save money. It's silly beyond words to insist that slower is better, unless you drive a zamboni.

It really cracks me up to see folks talking about saving a couple of hundred dollars on a 2000 dollar machine while INSISTING on a SSD mated to the SLOWER processor.



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And your point is what exactly? Yes, I was a still photographer and still handle two jewelry clients, though I only do it as a courtesy. Yes, I just started last year as a screenwriter and have management. Yes, I'm currently working on film project and also with editors on various projects.

I still take exception to handing out bad info to buyers. The ONLY reason to buy a slower computer with a shorter lifespan is to save money. It's silly beyond words to insist that slower is better, unless you drive a zamboni.

It really cracks me up to see folks talking about saving a couple of hundred dollars on a 2000 dollar machine while INSISTING on a SSD mated to the SLOWER processor.



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he couldn't afford maybe.. i can buy like you i don't . you don't have to tell detail who your customer x,y,z

I buy mac on urgent so no time for customisation..And to ask custom from apple may take month .. I'm glad with my decision buying imac after listen your story. My lenovo laptop got keyboard issue then changed to Acer 4736 then changed to Acer Also because of keyboard issue.. Change price not much around 30 dollar but i rather changed laptop every 3 year before. The last 2 was SSD and only this imac 2017 new i don't upgrade to SSD.

So no matter what your job, as long it can finish the job .. Enough..
 
Which version i5 do you have?

I got the highest i5 available, 3.8GHz. For what it's worth, I had an i5 on my PC, then bumped it up to the next gen i7 (not same gen i7) and I felt the speed difference wasn't huge. Maybe 10% or so faster rendering in Premiere Pro. Outside of rendering, I didn't feel there was a significant difference. That's just my experience anyway.

I haven't done any rendering on my i5 iMac, but I have done some 1440p gaming and haven't heard a fan yet.

I did consider the i7, but figured I'd rather have a quieter iMac than a slight rendering boost.
 
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