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Phones Thinking about Android again

ClaraStahlbaum said:
It takes good enough photos, but it is not the best quality photo.
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I think mid-range phones are designed this way to entice you to upgrade to the flagship models. I normally use the iPhone 13 mini and the photos are kinda average compared to my previous phone, the Samsung Galaxy S9 from 2018. Recently I broke my iPhone and switched back to the S9 and I realized how much more I like the photo quality. If you care about photo quality, get a flagship model.

With this experience, I think I will get the Xiaomi 17. There is an international version that has all of the frequencies for my provider. It also has dual eSIM and can accept two physical SIMs. The Chinese version only has physical SIM slots and is missing two frequencies for my provider.
 
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MacInTO said:
I think mid-range phones are designed this way to entice you to upgrade to the flagship models. I normally use the iPhone 13 mini and the photos are kinda average compared to my previous phone, the Samsung Galaxy S9 from 2018. Recently I broke my iPhone and switched back to the S9 and I realized how much more I like the photo quality. If you care about photo quality, get a flagship model.

With this experience, I think I will get the Xiaomi 17. There is an international version that has all of the frequencies for my provider. It also has dual eSIM and can accept two physical SIMs. The Chinese version only has physical SIM slots and is missing two frequencies for my provider.
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I think you tend to also get used to the touchup algorithm of whatever brand that you're accustomed to. When I first got my ZF7 I thought the photos felt overprocessed/soft especially in the stock 'photo' mode. I was kinda bummed at first because it felt like a downgrade from my old 13PM. Then after a few months I was out with my brother and we both took some photos and started going through them. I prefer the ZF7's photos that I took to the ones he took on his 16PM. Especially for low light, high vibrancy photos and especially photos of food.
 
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MacInTO said:
I think mid-range phones are designed this way to entice you to upgrade to the flagship models. I normally use the iPhone 13 mini and the photos are kinda average compared to my previous phone, the Samsung Galaxy S9 from 2018. Recently I broke my iPhone and switched back to the S9 and I realized how much more I like the photo quality. If you care about photo quality, get a flagship model.

With this experience, I think I will get the Xiaomi 17. There is an international version that has all of the frequencies for my provider. It also has dual eSIM and can accept two physical SIMs. The Chinese version only has physical SIM slots and is missing two frequencies for my provider.
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I am considering the A57 or the S25 FE because of the price point. Flagship models are definitely out of my price range and I am not someone who makes use of all these features. If I do get an Android, I'll likely disable all of the AI features if possible.
 
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ClaraStahlbaum said:
I am considering the A57 or the S25 FE because of the price point. Flagship models are definitely out of my price range and I am not someone who makes use of all these features. If I do get an Android, I'll likely disable all of the AI features if possible.
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Get the S25 FE over the A57, it's a much much better phone at a similar price!
 
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I am using the pixel 8 pro right now as my main device. I have owned it for 3 years now and it's still awesome. I do have to replace my battery soon as it's not holding it's charge so I have to top up to get me through a heavy use day. But the cameras, features, smoothness etc are top notch.

I bought the mother in law a pixel 9a a couple of months ago and it's equally as good. I bought my father in law a moto g play 2025 model since he just wanted a basic phone and moving from a non smart flip phone. Again, this device for a basic phone is quite nice. 169.00 canadian for the Moto is impressive value.
 
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Steve Adams said:
I am using the pixel 8 pro right now as my main device. I have owned it for 3 years now and it's still awesome. I do have to replace my battery soon as it's not holding it's charge so I have to top up to get me through a heavy use day. But the cameras, features, smoothness etc are top notch.

I bought the mother in law a pixel 9a a couple of months ago and it's equally as good. I bought my father in law a moto g play 2025 model since he just wanted a basic phone and moving from a non smart flip phone. Again, this device for a basic phone is quite nice. 169.00 canadian for the Moto is impressive value.
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Update on the battery situation. The last update fixed the battery drain issue I was having. The battery is back to normal now. Thankfully! I really didn't want to get a new phone since I have all the stuff I want for my P8P.
 
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Maybe you’re just bored with the iPhone. I use to switch my phones around when Apple had SIM cards. Verizon makes it to much trouble to switch e-sims. I have to be on the phone with them for one hour. I decided to just keep my 17 pro max as my phone. I have a google 8 pro and Samsung flip 6 that I use around the house.
 
ClaraStahlbaum said:
I've been using the Iphone mirroring feature a lot lately on my Mac. Being able to seamlessly log into my phone from my computer is a great thing. I don't think such a thing would be possible with an Android phone?
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Screen mirroring is possible with Windows/Android.
 
ClaraStahlbaum said:
Since they are Chinese I am not so sure about how they would work in the US.
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Well, iPhone is made in China, so...
Anyway, try an Oppo phone. My wife has an Oppo Reno 14 Pro, and it has quite a lot of better options than iPhone 17 (mine). Oppo has even better newer phones, the only hitch is that they might not be available in the US.
 
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valinda said:
Maybe you’re just bored with the iPhone. I use to switch my phones around when Apple had SIM cards. Verizon makes it to much trouble to switch e-sims. I have to be on the phone with them for one hour. I decided to just keep my 17 pro max as my phone. I have a google 8 pro and Samsung flip 6 that I use around the house.
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I moved an eSIM to a Google Pixel 10 a few months ago. It was a simple process in their My Verizon app, iirc. No need to call them. That was Android-to-Android; I'm unsure about Android-to-iPhone or vice versa.
 
valinda said:
Maybe you’re just bored with the iPhone. I use to switch my phones around when Apple had SIM cards. Verizon makes it to much trouble to switch e-sims. I have to be on the phone with them for one hour. I decided to just keep my 17 pro max as my phone. I have a google 8 pro and Samsung flip 6 that I use around the house.
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I'm on Verizon also but I use the ESIM settings within each phone to transfer, I'm doing it currently between my Fold 7 and Pixel 10 and it's almost as fast as physical SIM
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skriefal said:
I moved an eSIM to a Google Pixel 10 a few months ago. It was a simple process in their My Verizon app, iirc. No need to call them. That was Android-to-Android; I'm unsure about Android-to-iPhone or vice versa.
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Maybe I will try on Thursday since I will be off.🤔
 
valinda said:
Maybe I will try on Thursday since I will be off.
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I would try from the settings first TBH much faster in my opinion, when I was using the Verizon app I was having a few times where I had to call them BC it wasn't picking up my fold 7.. I just switched over from my Pixel this morning which took a minute while getting ready to go out get coffee ..
 
valinda said:
Maybe you’re just bored with the iPhone. I use to switch my phones around when Apple had SIM cards. Verizon makes it to much trouble to switch e-sims. I have to be on the phone with them for one hour. I decided to just keep my 17 pro max as my phone. I have a google 8 pro and Samsung flip 6 that I use around the house.
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I am bored with iPhone, however I am thinking switching to Android would bring a lot of un-needed risks.
 
ClaraStahlbaum said:
I am bored with iPhone, however I am thinking switching to Android would bring a lot of un-needed risks.
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What kind of risks? iOS isn't really secure, (look at the Pegasus malware for example), and Android has advanced device protection, and Samsung adds Knox to that..

Edit to add I wouond't count either as more secure than the other, both systems have a user to navigate to dodgy sites etc.
 
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robvalentine said:
What kind of risks? iOS isn't really secure, (look at the Pegasus malware for example), and Android has advanced device protection, and Samsung adds Knox to that..
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I see a lot of conflicting answers as to which is really the most "secure", so I remain undecided for now. The main thing that holds me back from android at the moment is that all my other friends/family are iphone users and I would be the only Android user in all the group chats.
 
ClaraStahlbaum said:
I see a lot of conflicting answers as to which is really the most "secure", so I remain undecided for now. The main thing that holds me back from android at the moment is that all my other friends/family are iphone users and I would be the only Android user in all the group chats.
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I wouldn't treat any device iOS, Android, Graphine os etc 100% secure. The group chat must be annoying, I'm in the UK so imessage isn't really used, as we use whatsapp.
 
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ClaraStahlbaum said:
In the US, nobody uses whatsapp. I have never used it, nobody I know has ever used it.
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There is only about 100 million WhatsApp users in the US - less than a third of the US population. It's relatively small compared to the rest of the world because the US is only about 4% of the world population. Your personal experience is not that of the world. You should get out more.
 
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