Thinking of buying a rMBP

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by biker121, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. biker121, Aug 19, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2012

    biker121 macrumors newbie

    Aug 18, 2012
    Hi guys,

    I'm pretty new to macrumors, mainly registered to get some opinions on my potential (and possibly soon) purchase of a Retina Macbook pro (i know its gonna be a bit 'OP').

    I'm a third year student in computer science and recently obtained a job (as a part of my major) looking to buy a somewhat portable laptop. My experience with computers has mainly been with PCs so far but I don't mind learning new OSs.

    I currently use (was gifted/rewarded) an Alienware 15x hooking up to a two displays, which has been used as my desktop for the past 2-3 years as I am not going to lug an extra 9lbs around the campus. This laptop has been used to code basic applications as a part of my degree along with a decent amount of gaming.

    This Macbook will be used for school, work, occasional gaming and presentations (to individuals/small groups [4-10]). Tasks like coding, in class notes, assignments (applications, OS related, web development, whatever else there may be). In the near future I intend to learn iOS/mobile and web development as a hobby.

    I intend to keep this laptop for (well as long as I can :p) 3 years before I buy a desktop.

    1) As far as programming goes, does the Mac OS have any drawbacks as compared to Microsoft windows?
    -Eg: coding in a specific language is not possible in OS?
    -Eg: web development is noticeably more inconvenient then in windows
    2) From what I have been reading, some folks say non-retina compatible applications look horrible on the rMBP.
    -does this have any impact on IDEs? Eclipse, text editors, Visual basic
    -is the impact big enough that it's unusable?
    -is there any way to get around it? -> does scaling/resolution adjustment improve it by any degree?

    Any opinions, advice, comments? -I've been looking at this laptop since mid July.

  2. MDFang macrumors member

    Jan 17, 2011
    The rMBP will, as far as I'm aware, easily fit your needs. It's quite powerful, though you shouldn't be expecting it to run games at high settings on native resolution smoothly all of the time. Doubt you'd really need that though.

    You can program on any old computer that has a text editor, and you know it. But as far as specialised applications go, both Espresso and Coda 2 are pretty good. Coda 2 wins here, because it has a more powerful file transfer system than Espresso, AND it's retina-ready.
  3. Drask macrumors regular

    Feb 3, 2012
    1) You can't use Visual Studio in OS X, just as you can't use Xcode at windows, the good thing is that you can either bootcamp (install windows in your machine) or run a VM. I have done this works great.

    2) It's all subjective, you can notice when applications are not retina ready but they are hardly unusable for me, because you are a programmer I assume you'd like the 1920x1200 resolution for the real state, so that makes apps harder to notice they are non-retina. Don't get me wrong, they are still nowhere near a retina ready app.

    3) In windows I use Visual studio at 2880x1800 with 150% DPI and it's just fantastic, text/menus are crisp while having a ton of space to code, debug, etc.
  4. stevelam macrumors 65816

    Nov 4, 2010
    Um more powerful file transfer system in coda? Please explain.

    Coda 2 is extremely buggy and a pain to use right now. Folders don't refresh properly. Code collapse sometimes just doesn't work. And the keyboard lag is possibly the most annoying thing to deal with right now. Other than that, yeah it's retina ready but meh. Plus it's not even an IDE and is generally only for front end coding.

    Eclipse looks like **** unless you hack it to run in low res mode and enable high res in the plist file. Unfortunately this causes kernel panics as well.

    And if you have to run windows, it's obviously not retina ready and you'll have to set the resolution to silly unusable levels and mess around with dpi settings making some apps readable but also breaks other apps as well. People like to leave out random facts like that for some reason.

    There are a lot of compromises you're gonna have to make. Some find it acceptable and just put up with it. If you can do that, go for it.
  5. biker121, Aug 19, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2012

    biker121 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Aug 18, 2012
    If you already own:
    -could you take screen shots and post it so i could have a look?

    If you don't own or don't wish to post pictures:
    - could you get a bit more specific than the entire program?
    - what doesn't look as good?
    Eg: 'this specific icon is wayy out of focus',
    Eg: 'this code looks blurred out'
    Eg: 'the panels look weird'


    Now for a little bit, lets talk about the OS.
    -is there any way to use the laptop's drive as the primary drive when using an external drive? -purpose? for running more intensive programs, graphical editing and gaming (to avoid running on laptop).
    -EG: Lets say i have a desktop (iMac/PC), can i use a cable to connect my desktop to the Macbook and use the Macbook's storage drive instead of the desktop's storage drive.


    I'm likely going to go to the University's Apple corner to hopefully install and test of some applications and webpages to see how bad the non-retina seems.
    -any specific things i should test or look into while I'm there?

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