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One thing to consider, if you have a citi credit card, or could apply for one, you automatically get 24 months of extended warranty for defects or if something you bought breaks. So, assuming you used a citi cc to buy your new macbook and also got applecare+ you'd effectively have 6 full years of warranty. Granted the final 2 years would be different since you'd still have to pay for anything out of pocket to get it fixed if the keyboard broke, but you can submit a claim and get a refund or depending on the type of problem that occurs they may just refund you the total amount you paid 4 years before. Not sure how common that is, I'm sure it is somewhat of hassle to go through to submit a claim, but it's there for at least a little bit of added convenience. I just signed up for a citi cc just so I could buy the computer and get that extra 2 years.
 
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One thing to consider, if you have a citi credit card, or could apply for one, you automatically get 24 months of extended warranty for defects or if something you bought breaks. So, assuming you used a citi cc to buy your new macbook and also got applecare+ you'd effectively have 6 full years of warranty. Granted the final 2 years would be different since you'd still have to pay for anything out of pocket to get it fixed if the keyboard broke, but you can submit a claim and get a refund or depending on the type of problem that occurs they may just refund you the total amount you paid 4 years before. Not sure how common that is, I'm sure it is somewhat of hassle to go through to submit a claim, but it's there for at least a little bit of added convenience. I just signed up for a citi cc just so I could buy the computer and get that extra 2 years.

Extender warranties provided by credit cards typically only extend the manufacturers warranty. Citi are not going to be so stupid as to think that your MacBook had a standard 4 years manufacturers warranty.

To OP:

The number of people without keyboard issues far outweighs the number of people with issues. Go make your purchase, you won't regret :D
 
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Extender warranties provided by credit cards typically only extend the manufacturers warranty. Citi are not going to be so stupid as to think that your MacBook had a standard 4 years manufacturers warranty.

To OP:

The number of people without keyboard issues far outweighs the number of people with issues. Go make your purchase, you won't regret :D
I'm not sure about other credit cards but Citi's says explicitly that it applies after the manufacturer and any purchased warranties end as long as it isn't longer than 84 months. They even have a breakdown so as far as I can tell yes it would be additive after AppleCare ends
 
Extender warranties provided by credit cards typically only extend the manufacturers warranty. Citi are not going to be so stupid as to think that your MacBook had a standard 4 years manufacturers warranty.

To OP:

The number of people without keyboard issues far outweighs the number of people with issues. Go make your purchase, you won't regret :D

Ya I know I love my 2017 MBP coming from my 2015 12 rMB. The speaker and screen is awesome! Its my go to streaming device in bed.
 
To OP:

The number of people without keyboard issues far outweighs the number of people with issues. Go make your purchase, you won't regret :D

MY GOSH, SERIOUSLY STOP TEMPTING ME lol I'm still trying to hold on to my mid 2012 macbook pro but I'm so close...very close

T_T
 
I'm not sure about other credit cards but Citi's says explicitly that it applies after the manufacturer and any purchased warranties end as long as it isn't longer than 84 months. They even have a breakdown so as far as I can tell yes it would be additive after AppleCare ends

I see! I stand corrected, that's an amazing warranty then :O
 
And in regards to installing it the wrong way, I dont think that ther is an incorrect way. It only gow
MY GOSH, SERIOUSLY STOP TEMPTING ME lol I'm still trying to hold on to my mid 2012 macbook pro but I'm so close...very close

T_T

Coming from a 2012 13" as well..... watching videos of how to install the newest Final Cut Pro ehem, while the youtuber said it would take minutes for such steps to load, it literally took seconds for the task to complete on my 2017 15" 2.9.

Everything is so fast and effortless coming from a 13" rmbp. To me, it's like coming from a 4 cylinder turbo to a V8 climbing a steep hill :)
 
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I'm not sure about other credit cards but Citi's says explicitly that it applies after the manufacturer and any purchased warranties end as long as it isn't longer than 84 months. They even have a breakdown so as far as I can tell yes it would be additive after AppleCare ends
Sweet! I paid for my 2017 MBP and AC+ using Citi. :)
 
You could always use the thin keyboard cover.. it will protect you from the dust and crumbs..i have a 2017 15inch macbook pro and i dont have any issues as of yet.. i use the keyboard cover and regularly clean the keyboard and the cover..
 
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I need to replace my current laptop and the 15" Macbook Pro looks like the best choice but I've read a few people having issues with the keyboards. I'm a bit wary of getting one now, especially given the the price, if there's a strong chance the keyboard might start having issues. Ideally I'd want it to last ~4 years so no good if they keyboard needs replacing after a short amount of use.

I've read the 2017 version was supposed to have improved things though. Does anyone know if 2017 version is OK / only a minority of keyboards affected or if there really is a design fault with them?

Apple Insider didn’t have a full years worth of data to compare the 2017 models, but they appeared to be more reliable than the 2016, though not as reliable as the 2015.

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/apple-macbook-keyboard-failure-rate

https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...s-failing-twice-as-frequently-as-older-models

Of course there is no substantial data for the 2018 models yet.

I personally have had a 2016 that has had zero issues and was passed on to my wife and have had a 2018 that had multiple keys fail. Nothing to be determined from that small sample size other than sometimes the dice don’t roll the way you want.
 
Apple Insider didn’t have a full years worth of data to compare the 2017 models, but they appeared to be more reliable than the 2016, though not as reliable as the 2015.

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/apple-macbook-keyboard-failure-rate

https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...s-failing-twice-as-frequently-as-older-models

Of course there is no substantial data for the 2018 models yet.

I personally have had a 2016 that has had zero issues and was passed on to my wife and have had a 2018 that had multiple keys fail. Nothing to be determined from that small sample size other than sometimes the dice don’t roll the way you want.
There could be truth to that comparison but its hard to accept when you personally experience the issue. Like when my 2017 keyboard stopped working. The B started acting weird. Thankfully with the Ipad Pro I rarely use the MBP so when the time comes when it needs replacement I will just buy an older MBP without the keyboard issue since laptops are no longer that necessary for me.
 
There could be truth to that comparison but its hard to accept when you personally experience the issue. Like when my 2017 keyboard stopped working. The B started acting weird. Thankfully with the Ipad Pro I rarely use the MBP so when the time comes when it needs replacement I will just buy an older MBP without the keyboard issue since laptops are no longer that necessary for me.

I think it was always in the back of my mind that over the years I would probably have to have the 2016 keyboard in for replacement, but my wife wanted it and planned to use it with an external monitor and keyboard, so I thought this would be a perfect solution and I would get a 2018 with the 3rd gen butterfly keyboards and hopefully fewer issues.

Well it was the 2018 that began to have keyboard issues on like day 10 and the 2016 that has had none, perhaps in part because the keyboard hasn’t been used in months.

I had that unit replaced, but now it’s always in the back of my mind that the keyboard of the unit I currently have, will have a keyboard failure at some point.

If you can get along with a 2015 for your needs, they do seem to be a relatively reliable model and popular among several members of the forum.
 
if there's a strong chance the keyboard might start having issues
Yeah that was my concern. I had a problem free keyboard but that doesn't mean it wasn't going to fail in the near future (I ended up selling it before it was too late). Reports are starting to leak out of other 2018 owners starting to have keyboard issues. Do you really want to spend almost 3,000 on a computer that has what I deem a ticking time bomb designed into it?
 
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