Thinking of getting an apple

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by nadinbrzezinski, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. nadinbrzezinski macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007
    and here are some questions

    1.- What word processor? Vista is a dog, but Word 07 is extremely capable for even some light DTP. In fact, the last book I put out was laid out in Word 7

    2.- I've been looking at the I-works suite, and its word processor is light and probably good enough for taking notes, and even writing the great American novel, but not adecuate for a power user. What word processor would you guys recommend? Believe you me, I am a power user.

    3.- As a writer I use creative suites that allow me to keep track of all aspects of a novel. I know scriverner is out there, what are the others and what are your reviews?

    4.- How well do things like oh Scribus behave in the Apple Environment?

    5.- I also write Role Playing Games. Anything equivalent to Profantasy CC 3 or NBOS Fractal Mapper? (That is mapping software for fantasy games)

    6.- Anybody used cross over office? And how good is it?

    I think I have plenty of questions.

    Oh and why am I even looking at this? If you want I can tell you all the joys of installing programs on Vista... when I read the issues of installation (for former windows users), believe you me, vista users will be more familiar with these "installation glitches," except in Apple they are by design, and not by accident.
  2. bartelby macrumors Core


    Jun 16, 2004
    Well you can install windows on a mac for all those windows only apps that you can't live without.

    There's a program called Avenir that seems similar to scrivener.
  3. mail4asim macrumors member


    Mar 7, 2007
    Cincinnati, OH
    I use NeoOffice for all my word processing, Spreadsheets, Presentation and Database files. It's built using OpenOffice and uses the same source code. I run a Mac mini in a windows based environment and it works with all the stuff I use at work. I am sure you would like it if you give it a try. You can try OpenOffice on windows .. and get a feel for it.
  4. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007

    I forgot until Word 07 came out I used Open Office extensively. It's just that word 07 is that superior for the power user.

    (And I do have access to the windows powerhouse, but after all the issues with vista... I could write a book LOL, I really don't want to install vista, or for that matter XP on a mac. In fact I would not recomend anybody get vista until SP 1. Yes, the issues are THAT serious)
  5. psychofreak Retired


    May 16, 2006
    Word '08 (along with the rest of Office:Mac) is coming in January
  6. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007
    Yeah but having to buy a whole new licence is kind of ughh

    I may just use a light WP suite on the mac, and use the Office suite on the vista box for layout.

    And at this point, beyond programs that work with cross office, I think I don't want to put full win installation on the mac box. Stabilty is my chief concern.

    Mind you have looked at Linux too at this point
  7. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    crossover office is running very slow here on my MB, much faster on my linux box.

    for what you need, I sincerely think you should keep a copy of windows on either pc or mac.
  8. hankolerd macrumors 6502


    Sep 19, 2007
    Seattle, WA
    depending on what kind of computer you get, i would really suggest just installing windows on via bootcamp. as long as you have enough hard drive space it is really easy, and then if for any reason you decide you just really need to work in windows, a 45 second restart will get you there. And the rumors of leopard being able to just boot windows via bootcamp without restarting and then when you shut it down just going straight back to osx, would make it even more worth it. I don't do much word processing though, and when i do i just use office for mac.:apple:
  9. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007

    Thanks first user of Crossover

    I tried it on a live distro of Ubuntu and it 'ran' on my dyiing laptop

    Ok it bottled and installed the win program and actually ran, just that my processor would not catch up

    It is a small app, kind of mission critical... for me

    (writing utility. I could always use the one that has distros for all flavors it seems)
  10. spyker3292 macrumors 65816

    Jul 7, 2005
    I really like Pages '08 (In iWork) but I'm not sure if it is what you want.
  11. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007
    Well got the Apple tonight

    they had a great deal at best buys

    In fact posting from it.

    By the way, my mission critical software runs under crossover nicely. And the screen space is sweet.

    Have had a far smaller screen for eight years, so this is quite the luxury.

    As to the app in question it is call story binder xe, and if you are a creative writer, it is definitely worth a look. And as I said it runs very well under cross over.

    Now back to the salt mines... doing my homework on what to buy I "lost" some time indeed. As to their office suite, I may get it next month, though bean looks like it will do what I need for a word processing machine, primarily.

    Oh and since I have been using machines for ever and a day it took all of what ten minutes to set this beaut? Actually far less painful than the setup for ... vista.
  12. Me1000 macrumors 68000


    Jul 15, 2006
    You probably should of waited till the end of the month when the new OS comes out,

    but it is only $130 to upgrade,

    and if you choose not to, Tiger (the current OS) is 110% rock solid!

    I think you will enjoy it!
  13. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007
    I will wait to do any kind of OS upgrade until all you early adopters scream in pain


    Bear in mind I bought an Apple since I've had it with banging head on wall with Vista

    The only big thing I looked at tiger was the grammar checker in the whole system. I checked writer at the store and ran it. WEAK... so will put my money away for Grammarian or ask my hubby for a bday gift, aka Gramarian or Omnioutliner.

    As is I am happily using my win app on cross over... and it is working well. Good news, I will be able to use that program on both machines and not have to deal with Windows on THIS machine

    That makes me a happy camper.

    By the way, the savings were extremely good. That is why I jumped on it.

    Hell it's taken me all of an hour to get up and running and doing what I need to do. Hell I just downloaed Bean... and it is really the equivalent of rought draft for the windows side, a fast light word processor. The heavy work can be done and will be done on the other machine. I got all the toys I needed for this, well mostly. Grammarian is a must, and omnioutliner is a want to have it
  14. Not-a-cliche macrumors regular

    Sep 24, 2007
    First, let me tell you they are called Macs, not Apples.

    Apple - the company
    Mac - the computer
    Mac OS X - the operating system.

    1) Office for Mac.

    2) Yes, it is indeed fun to repeat the same question you just asked with different wording.

    3) :confused:

    4) How about exactly the same?

    5) :confused:

    6) Crossover sucks. End of story.
  15. Slumbercub macrumors regular

    Jul 12, 2006
    Gloucester, England
    If you are writing manuals then there are better tools than either iWork or Word. There are lots of creative writing tools for the Mac platform that offer features that will be very useful for your work.

    From what you have said iWork will be ideal. I use Numbers for structural engineering calculations and it perform admirably with the added advatage stunning presentation. Pages can obviously handle a letter but it is surprisingly powerful although it is an all round tool rather than a specialist tool. My suggestion would be to get iWork + another app for your work if you feel Pages isn't upto the job althoigh I would be surprised if it wasn't. Certainly there is no need to pay an awful lot of money for MS Office. :)
  16. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007
    Well had to return the machine to best buys, it had a very odd behavior. I just ordered a faster machine from small dogs that should be here on Monday. And in order to get the CPU I needed to get a program first, so I order I-works, since neo does not do comments, odd, or colums, really odd...

    I know it will export to word... which is mission critical, and I have access to the Win Powerhouse, that can handle things like my DTP needs. Believe you me, I would have never used word before for that, but 07 does it admirably.

    And I will also be able to edit files and track changes, and add comments... once you get used to using those, it is kind of critical... you miss them
  17. nadinbrzezinski thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2007

    Ok lets deal with this and I was going to ignore you by the way

    Mac and apple are the ways many folks in the outside world refer to the computers. Sorry to break this to you, but even at the APPLE STORE they don't get insulted

    OS Ten is based on unix, which by the way is the Unix developed at a northern california university. I may come across as a neub to you, but been using computers all my life, and the odd apple product from time to time. Hell, I loved my Newton... and used it well after it was dropped from production. Since I replaced it with an Handheld PC since no equivalent exists in the Apple world. I use that machine EXTENSIVELY and being able to use my TOOLS is all that matters to me, and stabilty.

    Now you don't know what profantasy and nbos map software packages are, you may want to get edumecated... In fact I can tell you that Profantasy is based on an OLD and in ANCIENT CAD DOS program... and in vista it has some intersting issues. NBOS is mostly written in VB Script, from what I understand, and I use BOTH to create maps for both writing background and Role Playing Games.

    Now what are role playing games? Those are lets pretend with dice...

    Oh and to cross over, it WORKS with my mission critical application so far. WINE, which is the backbone of it, was first developed for LINUX, and I have used it in the past. Crossover is wine for dummies, and I don't want to spend the time configuring tools and fighting with setup programs

    I also don't feel like geting a Windows OS and install it on a new MAC (After all I have access to a WIN powerhouse that does some things BETTER than a mac.)

    Now get off the coffee and get some manners

    Damn... now care to tell me WHY crossover sucks?

    Is it speed?

    Is it that it does not support every application? I can't blame them, having configured WINE on Ubuntu a couple times... so exactly what is your issue with it?

    As is any emulation program REQUIRES RAM, since they consume more than any native application.
  18. Fallinangel macrumors regular


    Dec 21, 2005
    1.- You could use the Mac version of MS Word, which is simply called "Word 2010". It's the most recent version, and performs as well as its Windows sibling.

    2.- Since you wrote your latest novel in Word 7, why not use Word 2010 for Mac?!

    3.- Scrivener and Ulysses are probable your best bets. Both are constructed very thoroughly, and destined towards creative writers.
    Simply try both apps, and chose whichever you like best.

    4.- Since a Mac version of Scribus is available, it should perform as well as it does on Windows. Furthermore, there are other, commercial applications that do the exact same thing.

    5.- Profantasy CC 3 and NBOS Fractal Mapper aren't available for OS X, but you could use alternatives, like Dundjinn, PyMapper, or others.
    Another possibility would be to run both programs, CC3 and NBOS, on a Windows partion under Bootcamp!

    6.- I can only imagine that it sucks. There even isn't any need for it!

    I've never encountered any "installation glitches" on OS X. There's nothing more logical than installing an app on OS X. You usually just drag and drop the program from physical media (i.e. CD, DVD, USB-drive), or an image file that you downloaded to your Applications folder and your done.
  19. nicmalone macrumors newbie

    May 5, 2005
    Handheld PC writing tools

    Apologies for being very late to this party! I'm guessing you found and are now using Scrivener by now; many professional writer rave about it, and it's available on Mac, Win and Linux now.

    I still use my 11yr old Jornada 720 for mobile writing (when i dont want to risk my ipad). I use HPC Notes and TextMaker, emailing plain text exports to myself for use in Scrivener (or direct to my WordPress blog). Im curiou to know what tools did you use on your old Handheld PC, and do you still use it?

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