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Thinner MacBook Air in 13" and 15" Sizes Coming at WWDC 2016?

Rogifan said:
What's your stat for that?



And it's not possible at all that this rumor is bogus? Do you really believe Apple is going to wait until WWDC update their laptop line? And do you really believe they would update the MacBook Air with something that most likely would make it more expensive and most likely would cannibalize MacBook and 13 inch MacBook Pro sales? There's nothing in this rumor that makes any sense, unless the supply chain rumor mill got it wrong and meant the MacBook Pro, not Air. But I'm still not buying that these devices won't be updated until WWDC.
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I'm going to take a guess and say the Air is holding its own against the rMB - perhaps because it's a superior machine (if not the display) at a better price. I'm also going to guess that the profit margin on the rMB is much higher than the Air. The math is not hard from there. The rMB is a fashion accessory.
 
sanke1 said:
Yes. These 1 USB-C models are marketed for hipsters who love to sip some coffee in Starbucks.
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Are you agreeing with me or have you just decided that since the new products don't fit your needs then obviously everybody must think the same way you do... Like I said, people with desktop computers may need lots of ports but ultraportable computers -by definition- don't.
 
Steve121178 said:
I think it's a great secondary machine. It would be perfect to sling in the bag when I am travelling and on a plane etc. I would be tempted to pick one up for this purpose once it's refreshed with Skylake and hopefully a second port added.
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second port will be added only when they will remove the 3.5 jack and that will be after iphone 7 s after september next year
second port will be in the bigger macbook if apple will release one
 
tampageek said:
Maybe I'm missing something here but this particular rumor has me especially confused as to the direction (or lack thereof) of Apple's computer business. With the iPad Pro, Tim wants us to think that we don't need laptops anymore. Now there are hints that the Air is doomed - only to be replaced by even more different sizes, for those who don't want a niche product like the iPad Pro, or under-powered, overpriced 12'' rMacBook.

Here's an idea: Stop trying to sell the same thing in 50 different sizes just for the sake of selling something. :eek:
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It's true. This is what got them in trouble many moons ago. Bloated lineup with too many crossover products.
 
Serban said:
it will, i am sure of that, its not sure if it will be next year for sure...but the future is without 3.5 jack
Like Apple said THE FUTURE for them is WIRELESS
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Good for them. The consumer won't be happy about having to buy new headphones or scruffy 3.5mm adapters which is why it won't happen.
 
Steve121178 said:
Good for them. The consumer won't be happy about having to buy new headphones or scruffy 3.5mm adapters which is why it won't happen.
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removing the 30 pin to lightning or removing floppy disk or optical drive says you are wrong regarding Apple
Apple is the only company who its first in removing big things to embraced the future
 
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TallManNY said:
I just don't think the iPad is going to be a primary computing device anytime soon. A back up device, yes, but not primary. There still seems a place for the nice full featured but affordable Mac laptop, which is the Air in the current lineup. I think you really want the business of the kids going off to college. Get them started on a Mac and the will hopefully stick with it. The ultra portable is also not appealing to me, for the same reasons you mentioned above. The extra pound once I put in a backpack/briefcase just doesn't make much difference to me.

But I think Apple wants the business form the true road warrior who will pay highly to save that pound. Think lady executive on the road four days a week. The macbook would be great for someone who expects to be slipping it into a purse some days. But it still seems not the right thing for a college student.

Let me ask you, what should a student
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While I agree that the iPad isn't a primary computing device for me, for you and many others, I think it's already being used as the primary computer by millions of people. I'll have to dig around to find some statistics, but the iPad easily replaces sitting down at a desktop or with a clunky Dell laptop (essentially a desktop). The iPad may not be the exclusive computer for a lot of people, but I think iPads and iPhones are the dominant computing devices for an ever-growing proportion of users. Personally I can't see getting away from a Macbook anytime soon, but I see the trends. iPads outsell Macs at roughly 2-1

Speaking of kids I read recently about the surprising popularity of the (supposedly dying) iPad Mini as their first tablet. I think these kids will be using the Mini and then an iPad Air/iPhone far more in the first decade and a half of their life than a laptop and by the time today's ten-year-olds are going to college the iPad could likely replace their laptop if they've been brought up on iOS. I look forward to iOS evolving to be more OSX-like, rather than vice versa, but we will see.

It looks like your question got cut off. "Let me ask you, what should a student...?" If you meant to ask what a student should use today I think it comes down to price and personal preference. I'm in my early 30s so I used laptops since the beginning of college and the iPad didn't come out until a few years after I finished grad school. If I were a freshman again I could imagine an iPad Pro with a smart keyboard and my iPhone being my main computers, alongside a wireless HD for extra storage.

You make a good point about fitting into a purse. I'm an above average sized male so 3 vs 4 lbs in a bag doesn't matter to me, but it will to smaller people. My 2013 13" Air is still going strong, but my next computer will probably be a 13" Pro (or 14" if they increase the screen size). I imagine the larger Macbook they have in the works will be very similar to the 12", albeit with an extra USB-C port.
 
the ipad will be primarily computer when every desktop app will come to the same features on iOS, and iOS will be more complex with some kind of file management easy to acces files between ios osx icloud and users accounts etc
 
sniffies said:
What a buncha malarky!

Here's what will actually happen:

- Apple will simplify their lineup by killing the "Air" moniker
- Apple will switch to even screen sizes (12, 14, 16, etc.)
- Apple will introduce 14" MacBook in addition to the 12"
- Apple will replace 13" and 15" MacBook Pro with thinner 14" and 16" MacBook Pro, respectively
- 14" and 16" MacBook Pro will be the same size as the current 13" and 15" MacBook Pro, respectively, but with larger screen thanks to much thinner bezel
- Apple will rename iPad Air as simply iPad
- Air is overrated
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Yes. but this isn't even gonna happen at WWDC. They never reveal hardware at WWDC since Jobs.
 
Serban said:
removing the 30 pin to lightning or removing floppy disk or optical drive says you are wrong regarding Apple
Apple is the only company who its first in removing big things to embraced the future
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That was just the charging port and removing an antquated 30 pin port was lauded as a good idea by almost everyone who didn't have an expensive 30 pin docking station. Removing the 3.5mm jack is just too soon. Maybe in another 2-3 years...
 
Menopause said:
If they're making *everything* one size bigger: I'd like to request that 17" MacBook Pros be resurrected with a Retina Display with the present MBP form factor (thinness, weight etc.). It'll be a dream for creative professionals.
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I think when 4K on a laptop gets with in "proper power consumption levels" they will have a "17" is back campaign", fingers crossed...
 
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Serban said:
the ipad will be primarily computer when every desktop app will come to the same features on iOS, and iOS will be more complex with some kind of file management easy to acces files between ios osx icloud and users accounts etc
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Hmm...I can't remember the last time I used a desktop app outside of my job. It probably was iTunes. What desktop apps do all these people need? You don't need a desktop app to browse the internet, check email, use Facebook, Instagram or snapchat. Heck I even file my taxes on my iPad now.
 
Steve121178 said:
Let's say I want to run 2-4 Virtual Machines and I allocate them around 2GB RAM each & 2 vCPU's which I can do on my Pro and still run OS X just fine with all that going on. I've no hope in hell of doing that on a 12" MacBook. The MacBook's biggest bottleneck is the CPU.
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The 13-inch MacBook Pro has the same amount of RAM and the same number of virtual CPU cores as the 12-inch MacBook. So you could setup the same number of Virtual Machines, they will all just run a little bit slower. No functionality is lost with a slower notebook, you only need to be more patient with task completion times. Apple even sells a 27-inch 5K iMac with a spinning hard drive, so there must be some very patient customers -- doing real work, really slow.
 
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Serban said:
removing the 30 pin to lightning or removing floppy disk or optical drive says you are wrong regarding Apple
Apple is the only company who its first in removing big things to embraced the future
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The thing is floppy disk and optical drives were on their way out before removing them. 3.5mm headphones are standard and they aren't going anywhere time son. 3.5 mm headphones from things like laptops to handheld games.

Back in the day Nokia use to use their own headphone jacks. It was a hassle because you couldn't use standard 3.5mm headphones. You had to buy their headphones. Then Nokia finally decided to adopt 3.5mm.
 
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Gudi said:
The 13-inch MacBook Pro has the same amount of RAM and the same number of virtual CPU cores as the 12-inch MacBook. So you could setup the same number of Virtual Machines, they will all just run a little bit slower. No functionality is lost with a slower notebook, you only need to be more patient with task completion times. Apple even sells a 27-inch 5K iMac with a spinning hard drive, so there must be some very patient customers -- doing real work, really slow.
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I have a 13" MBP with 16GB of RAM. The 13" Retina MacBook Pro has a 28w i5/i7 CPU and the MacBook 12" has a 5w Y-Series fanless set-up. Totally different! You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Your post is embarrassing as it lacks even moderate understanding of the different architectures so I'd advise you not to comment on something you know nothing about.
 
nick42983 said:
While I agree that the iPad isn't a primary computing device for me, for you and many others, I think it's already being used as the primary computer by millions of people. I'll have to dig around to find some statistics, but the iPad easily replaces sitting down at a desktop or with a clunky Dell laptop (essentially a desktop). The iPad may not be the exclusive computer for a lot of people, but I think iPads and iPhones are the dominant computing devices for an ever-growing proportion of users. Personally I can't see getting away from a Macbook anytime soon, but I see the trends. iPads outsell Macs at roughly 2-1

Speaking of kids I read recently about the surprising popularity of the (supposedly dying) iPad Mini as their first tablet. I think these kids will be using the Mini and then an iPad Air/iPhone far more in the first decade and a half of their life than a laptop and by the time today's ten-year-olds are going to college the iPad could likely replace their laptop if they've been brought up on iOS. I look forward to iOS evolving to be more OSX-like, rather than vice versa, but we will see.

It looks like your question got cut off. "Let me ask you, what should a student...?" If you meant to ask what a student should use today I think it comes down to price and personal preference. I'm in my early 30s so I used laptops since the beginning of college and the iPad didn't come out until a few years after I finished grad school. If I were a freshman again I could imagine an iPad Pro with a smart keyboard and my iPhone being my main computers, alongside a wireless HD for extra storage.

You make a good point about fitting into a purse. I'm an above average sized male so 3 vs 4 lbs in a bag doesn't matter to me, but it will to smaller people. My 2013 13" Air is still going strong, but my next computer will probably be a 13" Pro (or 14" if they increase the screen size). I imagine the larger Macbook they have in the works will be very similar to the 12", albeit with an extra USB-C port.
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As a student could you really use iOS which has no file management system, as your main computer? Or the smart keyboard as your main typing method? Considering you are probably typing hours of homework each week and sometimes each day. I can't see that. Too many sacrifices just so you can save a few pounds of weight.

But maybe I should try it sometime. I've got an iPad Air 2 and a nice enough belkin bluetooth keyboard (probably better than the iPad Pro smartkeyboard in terms of things like key travel). I could take my iMac off my desk and set up the Air 2 on it and see how that goes for a few days. If I don't actually remove the iMac though I know I will just end up using that. There are some things I can't do on my iPad, but mainly because I haven't bought duplicate iOS programs from ones I already have in OSX. There isn't a technical limitation nor is the iOS ecosystem really in many ways limiting at this point.
 
Steve121178 said:
I have a 13" MBP with 16GB of RAM. The 13" Retina MacBook Pro has a 28w i5/i7 CPU and the MacBook 12" has a 5w Y-Series fanless set-up. Totally different! You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Your post is embarrassing as it lacks even moderate understanding of the different architectures so I'd advise you not to comment on something you know nothing about.
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It is quite laughable that someone thinks a underpowered laptop like a MacBook can do the same things as a MacBook Pro. Apple doesn't call it the MacBook Pro for no reason. Most laptops can't do what a MacBook Pro does.
 
furi0usbee said:
Isn't that 2012 rMBP a killer Mac? This is the longest I've ever had a Mac. Always bought and sold them within 2 years. This Mac has it all (for me) and it has never not been able to do what I need it to do.
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yes it certainly holds its own. Only thing i did to it was upgrade to 1TB ssd. Even with gaming its quite good, its just starting now to have issues with some of the newest games like battlefront, but even then can run on low.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
If it lasts as long as my 2007 iMac (which is still running just fine, 8 years and 1 month after I bought it - it has run every OS from 10.4 to 10.11 so far), you've still got another 5+ years of life in it.

The MacMini from 2006 is also still working, although I only ever updated it to 10.6, and it functions as just a server for me.
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Good and bad i suppose :confused::D
 
nia820 said:
It is quite laughable that someone thinks a underpowered laptop like a MacBook can do the same things as a MacBook Pro. Apple doesn't call it the MacBook Pro for no reason. Most laptops can't do what a MacBook Pro does.
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most laptops can't do what a macbook pro does as well as a macbook pro can. there, i fixed it for you.

unless your macbook pro can make you coffee or clean your bathroom, i think he has a point.
 
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