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In a way I think that it's good that iOS devices are hard to jailbreak for the common user. The less jailbreakers the best for iOS apps. The main reason why developers stick with iOS vs Android is due to piracy. I just got my iPad today and I can't wait for a jailbreak to be released :)
 
You didn't have a 4S jailbroken at 5.0.1 and upgrade to 5.1 did you?

Lol no not at all. I was saying that now I am waiting for a untethered JB for 4s from 5.0.1. I currently have my 5.0.1 JB. But I would like to receive the battery improvement from the new update without loosing my JB.
 
MuscleNerd notes that this is simply the first step in the process of releasing a public tool for jailbreaking the new device, but it seems that progress should come relatively rapidly.

The iPhone Dev Team does not intend to release the method of jailbreaking they used on this device to the public. It is their "backdoor," an exploit that exists in iOS that Apple will not likely figure out if they don't release it.

They want to maintain this because it is much easier to figure out how to jailbreak a device once it's already jailbroken; you already have access to its internals.

That said, a few people/groups have made progress toward a real jailbreak, and you can read about it here: http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/19383772351/ipad-3-fever
 
When I read stuff like this, I can't help but imagine that working in any form of digital security job must be frustrating as hell... :p

frustrating but at least you know you have job security

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Apple won't loose anything. Even they make 0 dollar from selling software if the user jailbreaks the iPad, they still make money from the selling iPad hardware itself.

And they make money from making you buy a new one when you brick your iPad with a jailbreak

well not the folks here cause they are smart enough not to update the OS etc. But the wannabes that don't understand the way the game works will hit install update without thinking about it. They are also stupid enough to admit that they did it when they go in to get it fixed. d'oh

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The iPhone Dev Team does not intend to release the method of jailbreaking they used on this device to the public. It is their "backdoor," an exploit that exists in iOS that Apple will not likely figure out if they don't release it.

I suspect there is a whole team at all that is applying these tricks just so they can reverse engineer it and block it with future updates. All iPDT might be doing is delaying things for a few weeks at best. But hey, more power to them for trying
 
And they make money from making you buy a new one when you brick your iPad with a jailbreak

you cannot brick an idevice with any of the legitimate public jailbreaks available.
the only way to 'brick' the device is by damaging the baseband, which usually occurs when trying an unproper method to unlock the device for use on alternate carriers
 
Obviously this came early. The "new" iPad has very few new things. Its more like an iPad 2 with more ram and a new GPU.
 
Doesn't Verizon let you tether to the new iPad for free? If that's correct, I have no reason to jailbreak my iPad.

You don't have to Jailbreak your iPad to tether. Just your iPhone.

i would consider jailbreaking mine. what are the top benefits of jailbreaking an ipad?

There are a lot of LEGAL apps that Apple will simply not approve. One is iMame, an arcade emulator. There are also a lot of system tweaks that make things easier and faster to do, or just add more functionality.

Obviously this came early. The "new" iPad has very few new things. Its more like an iPad 2 with more ram and a new GPU.

You left out the most important "new" thing, the screen. It's the only reason I upgraded. Everything that uses text looks better than anything you've ever seen. Mail, Web, Books, Magazines, Facebook... and COMIC BOOKS & MANGA are insane looking now.

Finally Apple has made an iPad that lives up to the name.
 
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"My wifi" should he reason enough. It tricks your network to consider your 3G or 4G networks as a wi-fi network.

Maybe the data service you have makes no distinction between tw two with regards to cost or limits.

However, consider that FaceTime, as well as a few other apps, only work via wifi.

One additional JB app that sold me is biteSMS. This needs to be googled for full appreciation.

Kindly,

@pololinguistic
 
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See reply to "Jackhdev" from @pololinguistic
 
Apple won't loose anything. Even they make 0 dollar from selling software if the user jailbreaks the iPad, they still make money from the selling iPad hardware itself.

The app developers will.
 
When I read stuff like this, I can't help but imagine that working in any form of digital security job must be frustrating as hell... :p

It can be frustrating but most security jobs don't deal with such high profile cat-and-mouse games as this one.

Plus, as others as said, it keeps people in jobs.
 
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Nah they have this hack that only works for registered developers with that kinda access. It's always recycled and the technique itself is never revealed...

While it has been "jailbroken" we now need a new public exploit, an injection method and other little tricks. Could take some months!
 
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Nah they have this hack that only works for registered developers with that kinda access. It's always recycled and the technique itself is never revealed...

While it has been "jailbroken" we now need a new public exploit, an injection method and other little tricks. Could take some months!
exactly very well said ;)
 
Man this is great news. Picked up my first iPad today and thought I'd have to wait ages for a possible jailbreak, but it seems one could be around the corner:)
 
There are a lot of LEGAL apps that Apple will simply not approve. One is iMame, an arcade emulator.

There is no legal way to use MAME in any form. It's possible for a company like Atari to go look at the MAME code for a game they released, then tell their programmers to go clean-room make emulators for those processors used instead of decompiling the ROM itself and just using the assets and logic. There are legal reasons for doing one and not the other. The publisher may not have the code any more and can't compile for a new target, or they were bought in a merger and lost the code and assets.

But the real reason you won't see MAME in any form is this:
http://mamedev.org/legal.html

Trademark
MAME® is a registered trademark of Nicola Salmoria. The "MAME" name and MAME logo may not be used without first obtaining permission of the trademark holder.

License
Redistribution and use of the MAME code or any derivative works are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
Redistributions may not be sold, nor may they be used in a commercial product or activity.

Q. Can I include MAME with my product?
A. No. MAME is not licensed for commercial use. Using MAME as a "freebie" or including it at "no cost" with your product still constitutes commerical usage and is forbidden by the license.

The iPhone/iPad App store is commercial use, fullstop. The MAME developers actually go after people who do this. So if your MAME-derived emulator is refused or pulled from the App store it was due to the MAME developers wanting it removed, nevermind Apple prohibiting VM's.

MAME itself, like DOSBOX should be considered a preservation effort to ensure that the games and knowledge of how to run them isn't lost forever due to corporate blundership. It's up to the companies themselves to make useful binary images of the game media that works with these products, which doesn't always happen (Activision and EA have some broken games that require some substantial meddling to work with their provided binaries.)
 
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The app developers will.

Which app developers? The ones on the Cydia store will make *more* money, because there will be more people that can use their apps. The only people who will earn less money (not exactly the same as losing it) are the developers who make approved apps that are inferior to Cydia ones... which suggests that they shouldn't be limiting their options.
 
There is no legal way to use MAME in any form. It's possible for a company like Atari to go look at the MAME code for a game they released, then tell their programmers to go clean-room make emulators for those processors used instead of decompiling the ROM itself and just using the assets and logic. There are legal reasons for doing one and not the other. The publisher may not have the code any more and can't compile for a new target, or they were bought in a merger and lost the code and assets.

But the real reason you won't see MAME in any form is this:
http://mamedev.org/legal.html



The iPhone/iPad App store is commercial use, fullstop. The MAME developers actually go after people who do this. So if your MAME-derived emulator is refused or pulled from the App store it was due to the MAME developers wanting it removed, nevermind Apple prohibiting VM's.

MAME itself, like DOSBOX should be considered a preservation effort to ensure that the games and knowledge of how to run them isn't lost forever due to corporate blundership. It's up to the companies themselves to make useful binary images of the game media that works with these products, which doesn't always happen (Activision and EA have some broken games that require some substantial meddling to work with their provided binaries.)

Neither thing you wrote says that iMame is illegal.

It was offered FREE on the app store, making it non-commercial.

And as far as emus, if you own the rom, you can use it in an emulator.

The iMame that was in the app store had like 4 non-copyrighted games. You had to use other apps to even get real roms into it.

iMame was legal.
 
There is no legal way to use MAME in any form. It's possible for a company like Atari to go look at the MAME code for a game they released, then tell their programmers to go clean-room make emulators for those processors used instead of decompiling the ROM itself and just using the assets and logic. There are legal reasons for doing one and not the other. The publisher may not have the code any more and can't compile for a new target, or they were bought in a merger and lost the code and assets.

But the real reason you won't see MAME in any form is this:
http://mamedev.org/legal.html



The iPhone/iPad App store is commercial use, fullstop. The MAME developers actually go after people who do this. So if your MAME-derived emulator is refused or pulled from the App store it was due to the MAME developers wanting it removed, nevermind Apple prohibiting VM's.

MAME itself, like DOSBOX should be considered a preservation effort to ensure that the games and knowledge of how to run them isn't lost forever due to corporate blundership. It's up to the companies themselves to make useful binary images of the game media that works with these products, which doesn't always happen (Activision and EA have some broken games that require some substantial meddling to work with their provided binaries.)

This is their right. But I'm not so sure I'd define that as freedom. It's fun, fine. But why be such an absolutist, when it means companies that make a profit must completely ignore it, and make it necessary that a commercial business drop that like a rock. I think it's much better for open source to be quite happy to be commonly adopted, like the standards that run the web. The part of the web that runs it has to be common language or it's a joke. The only way of making common language is to publish what you do, and be quite happy in giving businesses the work totally for free. That way, it's from a neutral source. It's likely to be much more secure because everybody's beaten on things for years, bugs have been squashed, and there's a huge army of people who get off on finding flaws. Give the best hackers jobs: punch a hole in this. Find bugs.

The thing is, this attitude has made it necessary that Apple, or any corporation, stay clear away from MAME. If you do something illegal and or tortious as your business model, you pay. So no MAME. I think that's a loss.

On the other hand, go ahead, jailbreak. Go crazy.

See, I don't think Apple doesn't really care if you jailbreak, as long as you don't steal the iPad. Jobs may have, but he was personally hurt and enraged about "another close alley (Schmidt) stabbing me in the back." He fights back. Tim will too, but I'm suspecting he'll go for a deal rather than the "thermonuclear war" of stopping Android from existing.

I love computers, but I'm not a serious tech head. I find the details of the hack a big bore. For lots of computer hobbyists or engineers, it smells like freedom. If it is for you, great. But it's a pretty sweet machine, this iPad.
 
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