This craigslist ad isn't suspicious at all...

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  1. savoirfaire macrumors 6502

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  2. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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  3. LucasEVille macrumors regular

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    Won't meet strangers, so will offer free P&P. No paypal etc only western union transfer payment.
    Selling multiple unlocked iphones, macbooks, etc very cheap for quick sale... Discount for buying multiple devices, perfectly innocent etc etc etc.
     
  4. lakaiordie macrumors 65816

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    thats kind of the point of craigslist, to sell your stuff to someone you don't know (because if you knew someone who wanted to buy it you'd do that first). if they don't want to meet up then i wouldn't buy from them.
     
  5. sunsetblow macrumors regular

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    I saw one yesterday that had a disclaimer at the bottom: "No, I will NOT send you the IMEI. Lots of people are trying to steal my phone via IMEI."

    I just rolled my eyes... couldn't tell if dumb or just bad at scamming.
     
  6. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    True, but what's not the point of craigslist is to transfer money via Western Union for "multiple cheap Apple products that need to be sold quick".
     
  7. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Craigslist is meet local only and cash only. I'm selling some stuff and have turned away 2 people recently that have tried to pay via PayPal.
     
  8. jamezr macrumors G3

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    Yep...I have bought a lot of various phones on CL. It is always meet at the carrier store and cash only!
     
  9. LucasEVille macrumors regular

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    Out of interest why not PayPal? I've successfully got my money back twice before where someone has sold me a phone that 3 months later was carrier blocked due to "theft".
     
  10. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    It's just easier, as once the transaction is done it's done with no chance for someone to fight it on PayPal. Plus no fees.
     
  11. LucasEVille macrumors regular

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    Ahhh you mean as a seller point of view not a buyer, understood. Exactly the reason I do the opposite, the choice should be the buyers not the seller. ;)
     
  12. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    As a buyer too. It's nice to know that once the transaction is done, it's done. No chance for the seller to try anything sneaky, and the seller wouldn't have any of your information. When you sell via PayPal, they now have your address, phone number, full name, etc.
     
  13. jamezr macrumors G3

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    With PayPal the buyer can drop the phone the next day and crack the screen. Then make a claim through PayPal and get a refund. I had this happen to me once on a sale through eBay. I could even prove through the auction pictures there was no existing damage yet PayPal sided with the buyer and refunded them the money. I got back a damaged phone. I eventually got everything straightened out with them but it was so hard and took so long to do.
     
  14. LucasEVille macrumors regular

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    All of these details they can get out of a UK phone book and the electoral roll so no issue from a buyer point of view in the UK.

    There is pretty much 0 pitfalls from a buyer point of view using paypal and I feel there are a lot more sellers trying shady tactics than buyers regarding dropped phones etc like you unfortunately discovered. I've only ever heard of a few cases of buyer fraud (your example being one of the very few), whereas we hear all the time of counterfeit goods, locked iphones etc being sold on ebay, craigslist and gumtree etc.
     
  15. ATS macrumors regular

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    I would not feel comfortable purchasing a phone off CL and paying cash. You have no relatively no recourse if you purchase a faulty or stolen product. Buyer beware!
     
  16. jamezr macrumors G3

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    I still buy phones from CL but I insist we meet at my carrier store (Verizon). I ask the CS rep to checkout the phone to see if it is financed or blacklisted. This way I know I am getting a clean phone ready to be activated on my account.
     
  17. iapplelove macrumors 68040

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    At the same time,I would only accept cash as payment for any CL transaction .
     
  18. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    How can you get their details out of a phone book if you don't know their name? Most deals are done via email and a first name basis.
    Same. If you are a buyer and will only use PayPal, your choice of sellers is going to be more limited.
     
  19. LucasEVille macrumors regular

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    Problem there is:

    A) no mobile store in the UK will help you since its not a transaction for them making money.

    B) there's nothing stopping that person reporting the phone stolen through the network still in the uk, you can buy a phone outright from vodafone for e.g. on a month to month contract (so no finance) sell the phone and report it stolen a couple of months later through vodafone who still have your IMEI on file. Bam you've got a lovely looking paperweight, a quick call if you are the fraudulent seller to your bank/insurer pay the premium and buy yourself another iphone to do the same again through another network and another unsuspecting buyer who got tricked on gumtree/craigslist/other unprotected purchase site.

    Perhaps we are experiencing differing markets here but I can log on now to the electoral roll and get first name, middle initial and last name details for all UK citizens living at any address within the UK who have registered to vote, I then just flick through the phone book using that info and I have their house phone number (unless they have paid extra to go ex-directory).
     
  20. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    Right, but with just a first name and email how do you get their middle or last name? Even if they give you a last name, there are probably many in the area with the same first and last.
     
  21. nebo1ss macrumors 68030

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    No they cannot. Good luck with looking up the electoral roll when you do not have a name. I have done transactions on Gumtree and as other have said its always meet somewhere neutral and cash only.
     

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