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usmaak

usmaak

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I have a purple Pro Max on order that I can pick up from Best Buy on Friday. I was all excited about it because this will be my first iPhone but after reading about all of the problems with this release, I am wondering if I should cancel and wait a few months for the dust to settle or just stick with what I have.

Overheating issues
Problems with cameras in apps
Problems with battery life
Issues with system data filling up for no reason
Screen inconsistencies, too warm, too cold, uneven tints, etc...
Phone is too large for some
People hating dynamic island
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I realize that the forum is skewed toward people with problems/complaints and that generally happy people don't post to forums. I am trying to keep that in mind. Maybe I should just stop reading all of the doom threads and give the phone an honest try without preconceived ideas of what is going to go wrong. If I don't like it or if it has problems, I have two weeks to return it.

I'm not bashing this forum. I do find it useful and I've been here since I bought the original iPad back in 2011. I have had more iPads than I can count and am on my third MacBook. I wonder how many people sites like this scare away from their purchases though.
 
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The same would be true if you went on the forum of any other brand. I picked up a Valve Steam Deck recently and have had zero issues with it. Going on the official forum though it would seem that 90% of owners are RMAing their units due to defects because all I can see are threads consisting of complaints both software and hardware related.

The reality is that RMA worthy defects only occur in around <1% of all of products out in the wild. I don’t think there is anything to worry about and if I were you I certainly would not be thinking about cancelling my 14 Pro.
 
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No matter what a feature is you will ALWAYS find people that will complain about it.

  • "I hate the notch! Worst design ever!" - Meanwhile I literally do not "see" it in my daily usage.
  • "Who needs an always on display on a watch? What about burn in? It will kill your battery!" - Meanwhile my battery life is fine and I would never get another watch that doesn't have it.
When the iPad Pros came out in 2018 people made it sound like it would bend if you breathed on them wrong. Still using mine daily and I've dropped it twice (luckily not on hard surfaces).

repeat repeat repeat

Also, Apple is good about returns. I ended up hating the size of the 12.9" iPad and swapped it for an 11". I could have just returned it for my money back also.
 
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Andeddu said:
The same would be true if you went on the forum of any other brand. I picked up a Valve Steam Deck recently and have had zero issues with it. Going on the official forum though it would seem that 90% of owners are RMAing their units due to defects because all I can see are threads consisting of complaints both software and hardware related.

The reality is that RMA worthy defects only occur in around <1% of all of products out in the wild. I don’t think there is anything to worry about and if I were you I certainly would not be thinking about cancelling my 14 Pro.
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True. I have had all samsung phones up until this point. I have never spent time over on xda-developers looking at all of the complaints before buying my phones and I have never had an issue with any of them. I do go there after purchase and it is a lot like this group in that it is filled with complaints about various things that I either didn't have or didn't notice.
 
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You'll be fine. The vast majority of owners aren't experiencing any issues. A website and forum dedicated to a specific community whose members have an affinity for all things Apple will be more vocal but they don't represent the entire user base as a whole. When it arrives, use your phone as you normally would and see how *you* feel about things.

To touch on your points:

Overheating issues: Could be the phone indexing and doing a lot of background tasks (iCloud downloads for example) coupled with the phone being used. This has happened to me every year I get a new phone and yes the phone has gotten pretty warm, but everything has subsided after some days.

Problems with cameras in apps: Addressed by Apple, will be fixed in a software update in the coming days.

Problems with battery life: Overheating issues as mentioned earlier play a part. Screen brightness, AOD, usage patterns, etc. play a part. I'm noticing the auto screen brightness on mine seems inconsistent and finicky on my 14PM with iOS 16 so hopefully a software update corrects the behavior.

Issues with system data filling up for no reason: Indexing and background data downloads and stuff being sorted out on the phone. See overheating issues. Again, this can take a few days. Restarting the phone a few days after setting it up worked for me.

Screen inconsistencies: A more personal issue, and may be hardware related. Only you can determine if the screen itself isn't up to your standards.

Phone is too large: As you say, for some. Is it too large for you? Only you can determine that.

People hating dynamic island: Again, only for you to determine.

All in all several issues take time and software updates to sort out. When the phone comes, set it up as you want, use it as you want, and see what you think and feel.
 
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I think the hardware is ok.
The culture at the company seems to have lost the single collective vision that it once had.
It seems that the in-fighting and self serving behaviors at the company are now negatively impacting the functional quality of the product, and this had led to the loss of positive public perception.

In the past, if my new iphone 5 crashed, I'd reboot and carry on.
Now, If I stub my toe whilst looking at my 14 Pro Max, I'll visit mackierumors and post something snarky, lol.

You make your own choice in the end; Sod the h8rs
 
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I’m having zero issues with a 14 Pro Max.
Many many things get resolved via software updates and Apple is consistent with updates.

It’s all about what device is best for you. For me it’s iPhone. All of my Apple devices figure heavily into my business and they all work together seamlessly.
 
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Touch wood, I've had no problems either. Bar far the most successful migration from old phone and watch to new phone.
 
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usmaak said:
I realize that the forum is skewed toward people with problems/complaints and that generally happy people don't post to forums. I am trying to keep that in mind. Maybe I should just stop reading all of the doom threads and give the phone an honest try without preconceived ideas of what is going to go wrong. If I don't like it or if it has problems, I have two weeks to return it.
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This part. I have no issues with my 14 Pro. Every year, there's something ppl complain about. Sometimes it's a widespread issue, sometimes it's isolated but blown up. And sometimes, it's really nothing but people are told there's a problem so there's a problem, you know? But in the end, Apple sells millions upon millions of phones that work just fine. And if it doesn't you can return it or Apple will fix it.
 
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Internet Fact: For every 1 person who posts problems about a product, there are 10 persons who experience zero problems. (In the MacRumors world regarding iPhones, it's probably 1 out of 100 or 1000)

That said, I'm one of the 10, 100 or 1000 who have a 14 Pro and have experienced zero problems
 
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This is the best iPhone I've ever owned, used, or seen. I have none of the issues you've listed.

I have the 14 Pro Max. I also have tiny Keebler elf hands. The size is fine for me.


You can't base how you are going to feel based on how other people feel. Get the phone. Use it for a few days. If it's not for you, then return it. I got the phone because it had things that I wanted from a phone. That's it. Some things that I am enjoying, others are not. You will get positive and negative feedback no matter what forum you go to. Or website. There are glowing reviews of the phone and scathing reviews of the phone. I'm loving my phone and people's negativity toward the phone have no bearing whatsoever on my own feelings.

Just use what you like for the reasons that you like. Base your buying decisions on what you need. People are also jaded and spoiled by technology these days.
 
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usmaak said:
I have a purple Pro Max on order that I can pick up from Best Buy on Friday. I was all excited about it because this will be my first iPhone but after reading about all of the problems with this release, I am wondering if I should cancel and wait a few months for the dust to settle or just stick with what I have.

Overheating issues
Problems with cameras in apps
Problems with battery life
Issues with system data filling up for no reason
Screen inconsistencies, too warm, too cold, uneven tints, etc...
Phone is too large for some
People hating dynamic island
.
.
.

I realize that the forum is skewed toward people with problems/complaints and that generally happy people don't post to forums. I am trying to keep that in mind. Maybe I should just stop reading all of the doom threads and give the phone an honest try without preconceived ideas of what is going to go wrong. If I don't like it or if it has problems, I have two weeks to return it.

I'm not bashing this forum. I do find it useful and I've been here since I bought the original iPad back in 2011. I have had more iPads than I can count and am on my third MacBook. I wonder how many people sites like this scare away from their purchases though.
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Just the normal screaming about this or that on this site that happens after every new release.

My experience with my 14 PM from another similar thread….

All good with my 14 PM.

Nice upgrade from my 12 PM.

Feels quicker, screen is a noticeable improvement, camera seems a bit better, a touch heavier but not really noticeable after using it for a few days (only really notice if I hold both at the same time).

Screen brightness outdoors in sunshine is a big improvement. Hitting golf balls at the range and using the on site Trackman range was difficult to read the screen on my 12 PM but 14 PM fixes that as it gets noticeably brighter in full sunlight.

Dynamic Island is what it is but nothing spectacular for me and how I use my phone.

Turned off AOD as I don’t see the need for my use case.

Battery is better than my 12 PM.

All in all, I’m very happy with the upgrade to a 256gb in Space Black.
 
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Honestly I would get it your hands on it and try to have your own experience. This release does seem buggier than normal. Some years are better than others but by far the iPhone is still one of the most stable digital tools I have used. And I have used Android as well. This forum really shows the full spectrum of attitudes, but not in the right ratios. Take a deep breath, enjoy your new product, and have your own experience.
 
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