All iPads This is a little scary. Error 53

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  1. The CameraGuy macrumors newbie

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    You would benefit from reading this. Even a screen replacement from a local shop could kill you idevice

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/error-53-iphone-6-1.3444025

    Apples new OS for our idevices would stop ou iPhone and iPads from operating, unless we want to send everything to Apple for repair.

    For me, this could be a game changer. I've never had a repair, thank God, but I have had a screen replaced once by a local guy who,did it in minutes,for next to nothing.
     
  2. MartyCan macrumors 65816

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    By screen do you mean the glass or the LCD panel?
     
  3. Dammit Cubs macrumors 68000

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    This is if you replaced specific hardware related to security. The article is specifically talking about the touch ID sensor. As that part is bypassed linked different for personal safety. Some random shop can't replace them without the system going all crazy thinking that there is a corruption.

    Personally, this sucks for alot of people but I'm happy that Apple has added in this level of security.
     
  4. The CameraGuy thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well as far as I know the screen is an integral part of the finger print button. But that's not what the article says. It is broadly referring to repairs done by 3rd party facilities. So if it reads the screen, the most common thing to break, as not an official Apple certified part..... It may not start up.

    At the end of the day it pushes AppleCare which is overpriced, and prevents a quick trip to the local store for a repair of your screen.

    I don't know, but it could be a class action suit
     
  5. maxsix Suspended

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    Apple is highly skilled in the art of avoiding responsibility while convincing millions that no one cares about customers like Apple does.

    The truth is well concealed yet it's available. Like the way they denied a major graphics issue with MacBook Pro models for YEARS.

    Finally after many customers paid out of pocket for new computers and spent years waiting, Apple was pressured into taking responsibility. Having spent $3,000 on one, that's not the kind of experience that makes one happy they paid Apple only to be ignored so long.
     
  6. The CameraGuy thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I understand, and am sorry. I've spent well ove a quarter of a million dollars on Apple gear since 1994. I hate their fake customer service and everything including the iPad Pro is completely over priced. This company has a fall coming they just don't know it yet.

    Still, I like their products, and buy them ..... Except for the MacPro. I made my own, with great success.

    D
     
  7. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    Then everyone could also benefit from reading this as well, which helps to shed some light on what Error 53 is and why Apple is doing things the way they are.

    https://theoverspill.wordpress.com/...le-between-conspiracy-and-rock-hard-security/

    Not saying that Apple is right or wrong here, but if you are going to pass judgement, it should in the very least be an informed one.
     
  8. kiranmk2 macrumors 6502a

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    I understand why Apple has done this, but at the same time it seems very heavy handed - surely better to just disable the TouchID function of the device (and maybe have a message pop up everytime you go press the home button) - this way you get a nag screen, but the device is still usable.
     
  9. Marshall73 macrumors 6502a

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    Why the hell would anyone get their device, which cost them hundreds of dollars to buy, fixed by some dude in a corner shop with knockoff parts? You had no issue parting with hundreds but skimp on the repair. People are just plain dumb.
     
  10. cynics macrumors G3

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    This is related to the touchid. And can you assure us that anyone (not just 3rd party Apple repair shops but random people with criminal intent) that replaces the touchid sensor cannot bypass security?

    If you bought a safe for all your most personal valuables would you be ok the lock can be easily replaced by anyone without the combination/key?

    Point is I feel Apple did this because they found a bug that could give someone else access to the phone when messing with the touchid so their fix was to add the requirement of propriety software/hardware to do that repair.
     
  11. I7guy macrumors G5

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    What are you sorry about? That Apple fixed a potential security breach; or according to some random internet dude the world is flat?
     
  12. baypharm macrumors 65816

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    This "error 53" issue has now escalated into a class action lawsuit against Apple.
     
  13. colodane macrumors 6502a

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    I can see both sides of this issue. But when I consider Apple's side, it seems that it was very poorly implemented.

    If they really wanted to "brick" the device after this type of repair, it should have been done immediately.
    That way the owner of the device would know up-front that there was a problem with the repair, and 3rd party repair people would not be inclined to even tackle the job. Being blindsided several weeks or months later when attempting to do a routine OS update is a very low blow. I don't blame those affected from being very upset.
     
  14. Count Blah, Feb 14, 2016
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    If they REALLY wanted to handle the issue properly, they would simply disable the ability to access the phone with the touch ID, and displayed a message on the unlock screen stating as such. I rarely use the touchID on my phone, as it only works 20% of the time(yes, I've triesd rescanning my finger a dozen different "guaranteed" ways to get it to work), and I just type in a code.

    But Apple, in it's infinite quest for $$$, felt it necessary to harm it's customers needlessly, to sent a message to everyone - It's APPLE'S ball, and they will leave and take it with them, whenever they feel like it - Customers be damned.
     
  15. Dranix macrumors 6502a

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    Nope, the secure chain has been tampered with so the whole device is untrustworthy. There is a rule in high security systems: once broken - never use again. That comes because you never will know if something else was done.
     
  16. Skika macrumors 68030

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    Your Touch ID is broken or you are doing something terribly wrong.
     
  17. ZombiePete macrumors 68020

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    Imagine the uproar in the opposite direction if Apple allowed the security system to be tampered with/disabled without any kind of software response at all.
     
  18. catzilla macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, class action suit...
     
  19. Count Blah macrumors 68030

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    Seems that there was enough negative feedback, that apple changed their minds, errrr "corrected" the erroneous release :rolleyes:
     

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