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This is what I would do with Apple..
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Re: Re: Re: OK, how about this one...
Here it is:
https://www.cybernetman.com/default.cfm/DocId/602.htm
This is lame...totally looks like an old commodore or something like that. However, if you just chopped the screen off the iBook and made a bit thicker to add needed specs...that would be cooler.
Here it is:
https://www.cybernetman.com/default.cfm/DocId/602.htm
This is lame...totally looks like an old commodore or something like that. However, if you just chopped the screen off the iBook and made a bit thicker to add needed specs...that would be cooler.
Then there is this:
https://www.cybernetman.com/default.cfm/DocId/612.htm
Battery-less laptop. The PC world is going bananas. I guess this makes sense for Lan party types, but even in the biggest of desktop replacements...I'd like a battery in case I have to move it...I wouldn't want to reboot to move it.
https://www.cybernetman.com/default.cfm/DocId/612.htm
Battery-less laptop. The PC world is going bananas. I guess this makes sense for Lan party types, but even in the biggest of desktop replacements...I'd like a battery in case I have to move it...I wouldn't want to reboot to move it.
5% of the market? Do you realize that while Apple is the ONLY one manufacturing Mac's in the market the rest of the 95% of the market share is numerous other PC manufacturers, why doesnt anyone ever talk about Dell's market share which happens to only be about 7% higher than Apples, Apple sells plenty of macs a year and is doing quite well for itself in a bad economy, and what do you mean they "cannot take it to another level?" Do you not remember when Apple hardware was the speediest on the market? Right now the only thing Apple is lagging in is processor power and that is in no way Apples fault.
Oh and on a side note I'm sure you meant to say "this is what I would do with the Powermac" and not Apple, because last time I checked it was pretty hard to upgrade the RAM of a company......
Oh and on a side note I'm sure you meant to say "this is what I would do with the Powermac" and not Apple, because last time I checked it was pretty hard to upgrade the RAM of a company......
to those people talking about the revolutionary iBook/keyboard
computer thingy. Yes, that would be cool. But I am trying to
envision an iBook keyboard with no monitor sitting in front of an
apple display, and all I can think is UGLY. I mean, who wants a
HUGE, HEAVY keyboard. Not to mention a delecate one. You don't
want to spill something on that keyboard. I can't ever see this
happening.
computer thingy. Yes, that would be cool. But I am trying to
envision an iBook keyboard with no monitor sitting in front of an
apple display, and all I can think is UGLY. I mean, who wants a
HUGE, HEAVY keyboard. Not to mention a delecate one. You don't
want to spill something on that keyboard. I can't ever see this
happening.
Re: Re: This is what I would do with Apple..
According to IBM's current estimates, it will debut at 1.6 and reach an expected 1.8.
According to IBM's current estimates, it will debut at 1.6 and reach an expected 1.8.
iKey (Keyboard Mac)
I would like to see this keyboard come to life but some different specs
64 meg VRam with Svid, DVI &VGA support
512 mb pc 133 ram
1-1.4 ghz G3
CDRW/DVD Combo drive
30-60 GB HD
100 MHz bus
2 USB
1 FW
PCIMCA slot (for wireless card)
10/100 network
OSX only
Play all the games or watch a dvd on your tv
Copy a tv program to watch later
do your video editing and listen to music at your desk.
$699
I would like to see this keyboard come to life but some different specs
64 meg VRam with Svid, DVI &VGA support
512 mb pc 133 ram
1-1.4 ghz G3
CDRW/DVD Combo drive
30-60 GB HD
100 MHz bus
2 USB
1 FW
PCIMCA slot (for wireless card)
10/100 network
OSX only
Play all the games or watch a dvd on your tv
Copy a tv program to watch later
do your video editing and listen to music at your desk.
$699
Re: Re: Re: This is what I would do with Apple..
sorry, i should have been clearer with what i meant. i dont disagree that there are applications out there that really need that kind of processing power. but the original poster mentioned only hardware issues, not the kinds of things that he/she would like to do with the hardware or a direction of computing apple should take. the things you mention (besides the searches) would be development of both hardware and software, and i'm totally for development of the things you say. there's things i want to be able to do as well.
and why does a business have to be either in the process of expanding or shrinking? can't a company and group of people just enjoy constantly taking risks while staying at the same level of income and profit margin? maybe goal number one isnt to make vast sums of money, but to produce quality, groundbreaking products that change the face of communications and computing? i don't yearn for state-run factories, i just want to see a company that enjoys what it's doing while continually shedding its own skin for innovation's sake. and to buy their products as long as i can afford them because i enjoy them.
oblob
sorry, i should have been clearer with what i meant. i dont disagree that there are applications out there that really need that kind of processing power. but the original poster mentioned only hardware issues, not the kinds of things that he/she would like to do with the hardware or a direction of computing apple should take. the things you mention (besides the searches) would be development of both hardware and software, and i'm totally for development of the things you say. there's things i want to be able to do as well.
and why does a business have to be either in the process of expanding or shrinking? can't a company and group of people just enjoy constantly taking risks while staying at the same level of income and profit margin? maybe goal number one isnt to make vast sums of money, but to produce quality, groundbreaking products that change the face of communications and computing? i don't yearn for state-run factories, i just want to see a company that enjoys what it's doing while continually shedding its own skin for innovation's sake. and to buy their products as long as i can afford them because i enjoy them.
oblob
Re: iKey (Keyboard Mac)
It would have to be something to rival the Windows Media Center stuff coming out recently...like this:
http://www.alienware.com/main/media_center.asp
I know their are other similar to these, but this one is the nicest I've seen. However, Apple could do this so much better. Unfortunately, I don't think it could be for $699 when trying to rival these.
However, what the original post was trying to get across is that if an iBook can go for $999...then we can chop the screen off, dumb doiwn the specs and make a super cheap Apple.
It would have to be something to rival the Windows Media Center stuff coming out recently...like this:
http://www.alienware.com/main/media_center.asp
I know their are other similar to these, but this one is the nicest I've seen. However, Apple could do this so much better. Unfortunately, I don't think it could be for $699 when trying to rival these.
However, what the original post was trying to get across is that if an iBook can go for $999...then we can chop the screen off, dumb doiwn the specs and make a super cheap Apple.
I've never understood the argument that our machine's are fast enough for what we need. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. If we have faster machines, then there can be more apps and add-ons that will do more things. That is the nature of computers. If our machines were fast enough already, then we wouldn't have needed the PowerPC at all. We could have just ramped up the 68040 a little more and been happy with a web browser and e-mail. The faster procdessors are what makes it possible for everyday Joe's to eventually do things that only high-end businesses are able to do now. Think about using iMovie to edit video on a Performa.
If we have faster machines, then there are more things that can be done more efficiently. That's the whole point. Yeah, my iBook or tower will do all of the sound editing I do right now, but the idea is to do it faster so that I can get more done and try new things. Does anyone like to sit and watch the computer work when they are already thinking of the next step? I know that it will be a while until the machines work as fast as I think, but the sooner that we can get closer to that the better. Right?
Regards,
Gus
If we have faster machines, then there are more things that can be done more efficiently. That's the whole point. Yeah, my iBook or tower will do all of the sound editing I do right now, but the idea is to do it faster so that I can get more done and try new things. Does anyone like to sit and watch the computer work when they are already thinking of the next step? I know that it will be a while until the machines work as fast as I think, but the sooner that we can get closer to that the better. Right?
Regards,
Gus
I agree--there are plenty of things more speed would help with. Try playing back digital video on a new iMac and watch the "supercomputer-class" G4 drop frames as it can't keep up. I ended up buying a PowerMac because the eMac/iMac are so underpowered for what I need--but it was damn tempting to get a PC at half the cost that would be as fast as the PowerMac I have now. Only my hatred of Windows kept me from being a reverse switcher--if Apple keeps lagging in speed, their puny 2.5-3% of the market will shrink to 0% and the only Mac software being released will be iApps and shareware.
Some 'Real' Goals
To most of you:
Keep dreaming.
But for some of use that dream in the present:
Faster Ram, maybe one that has 'Real DDR' (Dream big: RDRAM, yeah we are kidding aren't we?)
Bus speed: We are living a lie if we think our bus speed is anywhere 'NEAR' good. What do we have now? 100, 133? No, that is just wrong. What do the P4's have 400 something, 533??(Dream big: Think quad-pumped.)
Processor upgrades would always be nice. I'd like to see 1.5 dual sometime soon, and maybe if MOTO/IBM get far behind a quad system.
Video card: I'd like to see the PC cards getting here faster. (ATI 9700 please)
Oh yes and more options, I'd like to see some more systems in general, something to replace the Cube. (Yeah its been gone for a while, but so?)
Just my .02
To most of you:
Keep dreaming.
But for some of use that dream in the present:
Faster Ram, maybe one that has 'Real DDR' (Dream big: RDRAM, yeah we are kidding aren't we?)
Bus speed: We are living a lie if we think our bus speed is anywhere 'NEAR' good. What do we have now? 100, 133? No, that is just wrong. What do the P4's have 400 something, 533??(Dream big: Think quad-pumped.)
Processor upgrades would always be nice. I'd like to see 1.5 dual sometime soon, and maybe if MOTO/IBM get far behind a quad system.
Video card: I'd like to see the PC cards getting here faster. (ATI 9700 please)
Oh yes and more options, I'd like to see some more systems in general, something to replace the Cube. (Yeah its been gone for a while, but so?)
Just my .02
Re: Re: OK, how about this one...
Reminds me of the good ol' Commodore 64 and the Commodore Amiga
Reminds me of the good ol' Commodore 64 and the Commodore Amiga
KISS
JSRockit:
apple keeps a simple product line. it was supposed to be 4x4:
PowerMac - PowerBook
iMac - iBook
they added the eMac because alot of schools couldn't justify iMacs. Apple wins on simplicity; here is is, do you want power or consumer? do you want portable or desktop?
in two questions they have selected the line of machine they want
do you want to works, to basics or something in between?
in three questions they have selected the exact machine they want. They can all be customised to an extent, especially the pmacs. Try dell.
Do you want DDR-RAM or RDRAM?
Do you want a TFT or CRT?
Do you want to play games or do work mainly?
Do you want alot of storage or not?
Do you want a sound card or on-board sound?
Do you want a DVD?
Do you want a CD-Burner (no DVD-R option)?
Do you want Windows 2000 or XP Home or XP Pro?
8 questions and you may get there. lets use the KISS principle. i know which i chose.
JSRockit:
apple keeps a simple product line. it was supposed to be 4x4:
PowerMac - PowerBook
iMac - iBook
they added the eMac because alot of schools couldn't justify iMacs. Apple wins on simplicity; here is is, do you want power or consumer? do you want portable or desktop?
in two questions they have selected the line of machine they want
do you want to works, to basics or something in between?
in three questions they have selected the exact machine they want. They can all be customised to an extent, especially the pmacs. Try dell.
Do you want DDR-RAM or RDRAM?
Do you want a TFT or CRT?
Do you want to play games or do work mainly?
Do you want alot of storage or not?
Do you want a sound card or on-board sound?
Do you want a DVD?
Do you want a CD-Burner (no DVD-R option)?
Do you want Windows 2000 or XP Home or XP Pro?
8 questions and you may get there. lets use the KISS principle. i know which i chose.
Re: Re: Re: Re: This is what I would do with Apple..
duh, you are slow tonite
Originally posted by dstorey
Apples are a bit like women then?
duh, you are slow tonite
Re: KISS
I don't have a problem with Apple's or Dell's way of doing things...but I do have to say this...when, I go to dell's site...I don't want anything...when I go to Apple's site...I'm fine with each and every computer they have. And this isn't because I hate PCs...I do like Fujitsu's stuff...it is because I don't like Dell's style...good specs, but no style. I need my computer to look good and act well. Call me shallow...I don't mind. I want the whole doughnut or nothing.
I don't have a problem with Apple's or Dell's way of doing things...but I do have to say this...when, I go to dell's site...I don't want anything...when I go to Apple's site...I'm fine with each and every computer they have. And this isn't because I hate PCs...I do like Fujitsu's stuff...it is because I don't like Dell's style...good specs, but no style. I need my computer to look good and act well. Call me shallow...I don't mind. I want the whole doughnut or nothing.
The very first question is "do you want DDR-SDRAM vs. RDRAM"? If that's the first question, Dell will scare off most of their customers. That question shouldn't even be on the list. In fact, the other questions aren't very good either. How about:
1. How much are you willing to spend?
2. Do you want an all-in-one system to save space, or do you want a component system, or do you want a portable (notebook) system?
3. Do you want to write your own DVDs?
I think that's about all the questions you need to give them a choice of two or three models. Few customers will be in a position to make an educated decision about hard drive capacity or graphics boards. You can't ask people "will anyone ever play a game on the machine?", because the answer will inevitably be "maybe, who knows?".
As for the PC operating systems, Win2K would be my choice, but I don't think it's offered anymore, and XP Home with its activation nonsense is unacceptable, and XP Pro costs $200. The correct answer would be "none of the above". Dell should start offering Lindows.
If that's the first question, Dell will scare off most of their customers. That question shouldn't even be on the list. In fact, the other questions aren't very good either. How about:1. How much are you willing to spend?
2. Do you want an all-in-one system to save space, or do you want a component system, or do you want a portable (notebook) system?
3. Do you want to write your own DVDs?
I think that's about all the questions you need to give them a choice of two or three models. Few customers will be in a position to make an educated decision about hard drive capacity or graphics boards. You can't ask people "will anyone ever play a game on the machine?", because the answer will inevitably be "maybe, who knows?".
As for the PC operating systems, Win2K would be my choice, but I don't think it's offered anymore, and XP Home with its activation nonsense is unacceptable, and XP Pro costs $200. The correct answer would be "none of the above". Dell should start offering Lindows.
Re: Re: This is what I would do with Apple..
When the IBM 970 was talked about in Oct., the claimed bus speed was 900 mhz.
Yeeha!
I do not think that getting to 1g bus speeds would be a big issue, more of a math problem when the faster speeds are reached.
When the IBM 970 was talked about in Oct., the claimed bus speed was 900 mhz.
Yeeha!
I do not think that getting to 1g bus speeds would be a big issue, more of a math problem when the faster speeds are reached.