This is why I complain about Mac prices....

[scaramoosh]

We all know they’re overpriced, Apple make a crap ton on hardware for a reason. However in the past they were only hundreds more, now they’re thousands more.

The reason issue lately has been how you cannot upgrade them like the past. Or how Apple will drop support for so called legacy ports, Thunderbolt 2 GPU beta worked well, so why drop it for 3?

However they’ve finally seemingly made a step towards being able to upgrade your hardware with the iMac Pro and Mac Pro. But why only for “Professionals” at a cost of several thousand?

And why as a consumer do I have to buy something so underpowered? I was looking at MacBook Pro’s, and I can buy better specs on Windows for 500 during a sale, and be able to upgrade it, when Apple charge 2000 to not have a dedicated GPU.

I love to game, Apple have great hardware for gaming on the iPhone, now finally they’ve added controller support.... sorry MFI never counted as it sucked so developers never bothered.

So why is gaming excluded for Macs? Only the the Mac with all the bells and whistles and sold for multiple thousands has a good GPU.

This is what annoys me about the fans, they will continue to make excuses, but Windows continues to have better hardware. Apple love to exclude everyone who doesn’t want to be a fanboy.

It is so bizarre to me, and I got my iMac for 2500 back years ago and it had a great GPU for the day. When I added the cost it wasn’t much more than buying a whole Windows PC setup. However now I cannot afford to upgrade, to have a build of relatively equal setup, I’m now forced to pay 5000.... what is going on? The same happened with their iPad, and iPhone, suddenly proves have doubled... wtf?

I suppose they’re all for professionals? Exclude everyone else who wants powerful hardware as a consumer.

 

[greenmeanie]

You do realize "Windows" I think you mean Microsoft hardware cost almost the same right?
Order summary
Surface Book 2

$2,899.00
$2,599.00

Surface Book 2 - 15" Display / 512GB / Intel Core i7

Shipping: Free

Subtotal $2,599.00

And they are still using older hardware.

 

[now i see it]

Apple stuff is like Mercedes Benz cars. Nice, but if you can't afford it, it's not for you. Agreed though, Apple crap is getting very expensive.

 

[slughead]

Apple stuff is like Mercedes Benz cars. Nice, but if you can't afford it, it's not for you. Agreed though, Apple crap is getting very expensive.

Except I'm sure Mercedes never had has many problems with any car as Apple had with the 2018 macbook pro, and if they did they didn't tell the customer to hold it upside down while blowing it with canned air to get the stuck steering wheel to work, and then riveted the steering wheel to the frame so as to be maximally expensive to replace, and then release the same car again the next year with some added plastic to keep the dust from jamming it which also made the power steering all gooey.

Not to mention the totally bad practices when it comes to doing recalls. I was totally screwed on my iPhone 7 recall for the "no service" problem.

Thing is about the "mercedes" argument: 5400 RPM drive in the iMac. Your move. Seriously though, I'd trust the parts in my $1800 PC over any iMac of any generation. Forget that mac hardware is literally just PC hardware, I also cool my PC. Oh yeah, better warranty on nearly all my parts as well--lifetime on the RAM, 4 years on the hard drive, 3 years on the mobo, etc.

 

[Luba]

A while ago the price trend for laptops and desktops was down, but for the last 5 years (maybe 10) it has been trending upwards. Because they (all hardware makers) sell fewer of them? Supposedly some people just use only a smartphone and/or tablet for everything.