This is why Ive is the best

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by KingCrimson, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. KingCrimson macrumors 65816

    Mar 12, 2011
    How did a British polytechnic graduate become the design genius behind £200billion Apple?

    Tell me one other tech company that has a designer with THAT fanatical attitude towards perfection. There isn't any. I'd give Ive credit for 90% of Apple's current cash hoard. To me it would be so fair if Jobs simply paid Ive $10 billion in cash as a "thank you".
  2. And1ss macrumors 6502a


    Oct 20, 2009
    Good ole Ive and his godly designing skills.

    I'm sure some designers in the fashion world have same or near degree of perfectionism.
  3. KingCrimson thread starter macrumors 65816

    Mar 12, 2011
    I have no doubt there are perfectionist designers in other fields. The question is how can the VAST tech industry have only one super genius designer in it? Or do other companies have them but stifle them under doofuses like Ballmer?
  4. Tucom macrumors 65816


    Jul 29, 2006
    Speaking of British genius designers, Sir James Dyson made what is arguably the best vacuum cleaner - home cleaning MACHINE - out there, and having used one and a $2,000 Kirby, Dysons really are, the best.

    Another one for British engineers, haha.
  5. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location


    The technical side of Apple is not what made Macs so popular. The superior design and attention to detail exudes quality, inspires confidence, and sells sells sells.
  6. Heilage macrumors 68030


    May 1, 2009
    I think he's a douche. But damnit, he's good.
  7. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    I'd agree.

    He is a great designer — though not all of the designs have been successful.

    But he does have an air about him… poseur…
    This quote:
    "With the MacBook Air, he told me it's, metallurgically speaking, about as far as you can actually go with aluminium before you start disrupting molecules."

    Sure that stuff impresses Stevo, but really? :rolleyes:
  8. jackc macrumors 65816


    Oct 19, 2003
    He doesn't look that "heavily muscled" -- not that I'm, uh, checking the dude out
  9. KingCrimson thread starter macrumors 65816

    Mar 12, 2011
    The thing is it's always those perfectionists who are not in it for the money who end up making the company historic amounts of money.
  10. aristobrat macrumors G5

    Oct 14, 2005
    I am. I wouldn't say "heavily muscled" from what I've seen in the press either, but it definitely works. :D
  11. paolo- macrumors 6502a

    Aug 24, 2008
    Ive is good, but I don't think he's 90% of Apple. The fact that Apple doesn't have a problem with investing in design and makes higher quality computers have much more to do with the corporate culture (small crews working on small projects instead of having things lost in a sea of management) and the market they are going after. If you're a designer working for say Dell, your choices are much more driven by the cost than the user experience. For most companies, replacing screws with magnets isn't cost effective ;) .
  12. KingCrimson thread starter macrumors 65816

    Mar 12, 2011
    Ok I exaggerated. But it's definitely about a synergy between Jobs & Ive. Jobs is the marketing visionary guru who knows what he wants and Ive is the industrial designer genius who makes it all happen in his super-secret lab.
  13. KingCrimson thread starter macrumors 65816

    Mar 12, 2011
    That ship has sailed. Even if Dell put together a small design team with the mission of doing things different, they'd just be accused of copying Ive. Frankly Ive's designs are so perfect that he's going to have trouble himself topping them. The unibody Macs are virtual perfection.
  14. TSE macrumors 68030

    Jun 25, 2007
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    I find some of Sony's designs to be on par with Apple's.

    The Sony designs I find to be on par with Apple's are the ones where they don't actually try to compete with other PC manufacturers meaning they need to keep the computer under a certain price.

    I mean, check out the Sony X505 (that computer is basically a MacBook Air from 2004), the Sony Z series, etc.

    I also find the Industrial Design of the Thinkpad to be up there. It isn't the prettiest design in the world, but it is the most timeless design out there. Let me explain.

    Take a toilet iBook G3 design and try to sell it today. It wouldn't sell. Take a Powerbook Pismo design and try to sell it today. It wouldn't sell. Take a Alienware design from 7 years ago and try to sell it today. It wouldn't sell.

    Thinkpad design is timeless. I still adore the design of the modern Lenovo lineup.

    I'm getting a MacBook Air for college though. :D
  15. Mousse macrumors 68000


    Apr 7, 2008
    Flea Bottom, King's Landing
    Different people are drawn to different things. I'm pretty ho-hum regarding :apple:'s design. They're nice and all, but OS X is what gets me excited.

    I like my tools to do its job. It doesn't have to be pretty, it just has to work.
  16. Scepticalscribe Contributor


    Jul 29, 2008
    The Far Horizon
    I agree that different people are drawn to different things but good design - that incredible fusion of form and function - is wonderful to behold. Apple prioritises design and it is one (not the only one) of the main reasons I buy their products.
  17. rhett7660 macrumors G4


    Jan 9, 2008
    Sunny, Southern California
    Me too. However having it look nice too is icing on the cake! :)
  18. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    He did, he paid him 10 billion $'s worth of makeover :


    He's designed his new image the way he designs products. The guy is a fat jolly nerd at heart.

    Of course you do, that's where Apple gets a lot of their ideas. The chiclet keyboard is a direct rip off of the Vaio line-up.

    Oh and Braun too. ;)
  19. TheSideshow macrumors 6502

    Apr 21, 2011
  20. kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    You cannot bring up Apple and Ives' inspiration by Braun's Dieter Rams, without showing pics for the newcomers:


    While we're at it, Apple took a huge clue from this Braun calculator. And Apple complains about Samsung? Perhaps it's just homage after all.

  21. couto27 macrumors 6502

    Nov 10, 2008
    some of you remember the first unibody video when Ive say " i`ve being so fanatical to built a product......"

    i think i watch that video about 50 times, showing all the machinery and a sample how all is made, just the video and Ive, sold million of macs that year.
  22. AppleScruff1 macrumors G3


    Feb 10, 2011
    I thought Steve invented, designed, and marketed every Apple product. You mean I've been lied to?
  23. anjinha, Jul 13, 2011
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2011

    anjinha macrumors 604


    Oct 21, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    He's muscled for a nerd. :p
  24. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I love Dieter Rams designs, Many designers took a page out of his playbook, including Ive.
  25. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

    Feb 28, 2011
    I also agree that sony is one company that can hold its own in design against apple.

    Just look at that Xperia Arc. I used for a week and I wished there was a way to install a non-android OS on it. The phone design is one of the best I have seen.

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