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This 'Ive OS 7' thing...
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It was the default browser at one point. Kind of blew my mind.
Great watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY
Nope, OS X started with Internet Explorer. It was part of the deal Apple made with MS when MS bought a ton of stock to bail Apple out in the '90s. Apple agreed to have IE stock on their OS for however many years. When that deal expired, Safari was born.
Im really hoping that no one is really expecting iOS7 to be influenced very much if at all by Jony Ive.
Anyone who understands the development lifecycle will know that Ives influence over this iOS version will be very limited, hes only been in charge of design since Christmas.
I can see many on here being disappointed if there is a major, major overhaul, where everything looks completely different.
Id expect some minor changes to the basic UI that Ive has implemented, but to say hes had enough time to do anything major is extremely ignorant, and heaping way too much expectation on what he can deliver in such a small space of time. I would imagine that hes had a backlog or developments already in progress in dev sprints and had little room for change
Id expect a more Ive style OS to be in iOS8 or even iOS9
No Ive bashing after the conference please!
Jony, is that you? Shouldn't you be getting ready to shock the world?
Yes, because that happened over lots of years.
I didn't say the iPhone OS hasn't progressed, i'm saying it happens in small iterations, and this year won't be any different.
Threads like this are pointless. Wait a bit over an hour to decide how much you think Ive has influenced iOS 7. The OP also forgets Apple itself said they were pulling engineers from OS X 10.9 because iOS 7 was getting behind schedule. Sounds like a redesign to me.
iOS has been around for seven years and it's UI has been updated continuously, and now it's an overhaul tme.
From 10.2 to 10.3 there was a MAJOR UI overhaul, that happened within a very short time. Even 10.6 to 10.7
In regards to the above post, I'll take the word of the Apple CEO over you any day. If Tim Cook says he has a massive influence, then he probably does.
Ive and the design team are working on the higher level design work, but the normal iOS engineers have of course continued to work on whatever they would have normally worked on.
Things like inter-app communication, services and APIs for developers, and other lower level features probably won't be influenced much by changes in design direction.
Things like inter-app communication, services and APIs for developers, and other lower level features probably won't be influenced much by changes in design direction.
Also I might like to add, that the OP tends to "work for companies" that suit his threads current needs.
As seen here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1483805/
As seen here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1483805/
ItsWelshy said:
I feel honoured
How did this work out for you?
lol
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I work as a Business Analyst and Test Analyst as a contractor, I have worked on many large scale development projects, but I'm not that savvy with OS's, I work with off the shelf systems and software.
For example, I delivered a crew management system for British Airways, I dont need to know how to use OSx for that
Oh, you're back!
Do you feel like commenting on Forstall's massive influence over iOS 7?
If they really did this post-deforstallization, one has to give serious kudos to Apple. That is startup speed, not massive bureaucrazy-entangled corporation speed of SW development.
Ive design. Federighi software. Cue services. After that and after how Cook explained the core values and motivations behind everyone who works at Apple, how can you define it bureaucratic and rigid?
And especially after seeing what iOS7 is.
Oh, please do tell... tell me how has the fucntionality changed, other than the normal improvements?
App icons the same, just changed colours, grid UI the same, pages of apps the same.
Where are the widgets? where is the new UI moving away from the grid system? where is the new OS everyone was talking about?
The OS is the same.
If you really consider it just a change of colors, you're really looking at the finger and missing the moon.
The new notification center and control center do better than a thousand widgets that only bring clutter and let you know what time it is or what the weather's like in 20 different ways.
Let alone that nobody said there would be widgets or a shift from the grid system.
The new safari, the new multitasking bar (and system), the silent background updates, the redesigned calendar, weather and photos apps.
There are probably goint to be other new features announced along with the new iPhone, too.
You ventured into making wild guesses from the height of your experience, against all rumors and leaks that we saw, and now you don't even want to admit that you missed it completely.
Predictable at least.
I’m really hoping that no one is really expecting iOS7 to be influenced very much if at all by Jony Ive.
Anyone who understands the development lifecycle will know that Ive’s influence over this iOS version will be very limited, he’s only been in charge of design since Christmas.
I can see many on here being disappointed if there is a major, major overhaul, where everything looks completely different.
I’d expect some minor changes to the basic UI that Ive has implemented, but to say he’s had enough time to do anything major is extremely ignorant, and heaping way too much expectation on what he can deliver in such a small space of time. I would imagine that he’s had a backlog or developments already in progress in dev sprints and had little room for change
I’d expect a more ‘Ive style OS’ to be in iOS8 or even iOS9
No Ive bashing after the conference please!
You even made it all about the UI.
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That's what I say'eth. I'm impressed by their execution, given that it is a large company.
Wikipedia says 72,800 employees. Of course not nearly all are in R&D, but I daresay some other guys contributed then the three you mention.
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If Apple had gone overboard with creating a whole new usability paradigm, there would have been a backlash akin to Windows 8.
Even with these changes they are right about as close to how much you can change at a time before you upset your install base, as evidenced by the nay-sayers in the iOS7 subsection.
Other than a colour change, it's the kind of small fucntionality updates we get with all new OS's? Or are you telling me that there was more functionality released in this update than in iOS6?