Hi all I follow MR since many years, but never really participated in the discussions. My English is not perfect! I took this chance because today I went to a franchise selling Apple in Germany - Gravis - and found what seems to be a very interesting offer. So interesting I thought to report it here and hear if any of you can confirm it as a good deal. They sell the stock of the previous MPB 17'' model, 2.66GHz, 4Gb Ram, 320GB 5400rpm with the very interesting GT 512mb ram at 1869 euros. Do I remember right and this costed about 2500 euros til a couple of days ago? What does it have less than the newest models other than a slightly less bright screen and slightly smaller hard-drive? Also of interest, they sell the previous MBP 15'' 2.4GHz, 2GB Ram, 250Gb 5400rpm, 9600M + 9400M at 1349 euros. Deal or not deal?