This should be simple : PB or not PB ?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by SeRgIo_42, Nov 10, 2005.

  1. SeRgIo_42 macrumors member

    Oct 5, 2004
    Well, first things first : I bought my iMac a few months ago and it has
    been a wonderful experience so far. At that time I did not care about
    the hardware but the software. OSX is what all linuxes would like to
    be someday.

    So, months later, I received a gift from the gods : money to buy any
    laptop I want. This does not happen often and it is sort
    of lifetime opportunity. My first thought was instantaneous : PB 15" with lots of
    ram and HD. For me, the 17" is too big to carry around and 12" resolution
    screen is not enough.

    Now I need your oppinions. Even though money is not the issue,
    my boss made very clear that this machine NEEDS to last at least 3 years.
    Then I did a careful check about what the PC world has to offer and I
    came across this beauty :

    Asus W3V. 14.1" WXGA (1280x800), 2.13GHz, 1Gb DDR2 PC4200, 80Gb 7200rpm,
    ATI X600 128MB, 5.4lbs and the battery lasts around 4 hours. Price tag : around
    US$ 2100.00

    I know without a doubt that this machine will last 3 years on my hands.

    As a macrumors reader, do you think PB will last 3 years after Intel transition ?

    So, PB or not PB ?
  2. SeRgIo_42 thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 5, 2004
    I forgot to mention that the Asus config also contains lots of extra, like
    a dual layer DVD burner, weight saver, layers of thermal protection around
    cpu and heat pipes, fan fail warning, etc.

    If I chose Asus, I would install Fedora on it (which is ok for my job).

    Any comments appreciated !
  3. rockthecasbah macrumors 68020


    Apr 12, 2005
    Moorestown, NJ
    A Powerbook would EASILY last you 3 years and through the Intel Transition, they are superb buys. Go for it, you won't be disapointed with it ;)
  4. Dafke macrumors 6502


    Mar 24, 2005
    Easy, Powerbook it is. You answered it yourself: OSX
  5. wPod macrumors 68000


    Aug 19, 2003
    Denver, CO
    um, what will you use it for? if for any reason you need to think about a windows only program then forget about the pb. but if you know os x apps will give you everything you need, then there should be no question except go for the pb. . . it will be at least a year till the intel PB become mainstream, then another year before the software becomes pretty available and the bugs have been worked out of the first rev of the intels. so about three years from now, when the PB you will buy now, is at the end of its life, then the intels will be starting their prime and you can buy a new one then!
  6. SeRgIo_42 thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 5, 2004
    Thanks for the help. I need to hear some enthusiastic support to make the jump.

    By the way,
    Yes, that's the scenario I am willing to bet. Even though I do not believe there will
    be any major bug in the Rev A, most issues will be solved by Rev B for sure.
  7. Spievy macrumors regular

    Dec 24, 2002
    Have no Fear, get the PowerBook. I have a mac that is 6 years old (sawtooth G4) that I still use.
  8. risc macrumors 68030


    Jul 23, 2004
    Melbourne, Australia
    Linux support on notebooks is dodgy at best, I say go for the Powerbook and use Fink or DarwinPorts for any F/OSS software you need. You'll get the best of both worlds a UNIX like OS and it works. ;)
  9. Malfoy macrumors 6502a


    Nov 1, 2005
    DId you ever say what you used it for? Anywho, go with the Asus. Well how fast is your imac or pc you were using before? I went from a p4 2.4 desktop and a 1.5 pentium M laptop to a 1.5 powerbook last Xmas and I was pretty let down by the performance. Sold it a month later. Stepping up to a powermac in the next month cause it'll give me the power I want so I can wreck havoc in OSX with little remorse :)
  10. risc macrumors 68030


    Jul 23, 2004
    Melbourne, Australia
    To the poster above (Malfoy) Linux still sucks on notebooks, why go for a faster notebook with broken hardware support when a PowerBook will do everything, and everything will work?
  11. Malfoy macrumors 6502a


    Nov 1, 2005

    I missed the part about Fedora. I'm with you then. If he's gonna do the linux, should probably go pb unless he's done his HW beforehand.
  12. bodeh6 macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2005
  13. Ph4lynx macrumors member

    Apr 29, 2004
    University Place
    I have a 2.5 year old 12" Powerbook, and it is now my only computer.
    When I purchased it I had 5 PC's sitting in my Office, so not only has the powerbook lasted almost 3 years, but it has displaced every other computer in my life. So buy the powerbook, it's a better computer.
  14. SeRgIo_42 thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 5, 2004
    Yes indeed

    Thx again for the messages.

    I did not want to stir a discussion about linux on laptops but
    there are a few reasons why I would still go for a Asus machine.
    Besides technical reasons, I selected three random items :

    a. Batteries. Even though there are some saying the opposite, PB batteries
    are just crap. For what it matters, it is even impressive that Apple allows
    people to complain at its web store. Usually they would just cut those bad
    comments from there.

    Even with this crap, there is no way to use two batteries at once.

    b. Power cord. I usually get two power adapters to avoid carrying such things
    back and forth every day.Well, this was new for me. When I saw it at Apple store
    it looked neat but it is surprising to see such bad comments (again at their webstore).
    You must agree that basically this should not cost US$ 79.00 !

    c. There are cases when I need to compile fortran and linux is the cheapest way to go.
    You could argue that g77 or g99 are part of OSX (I tried to use them on my iMac)
    but there are pretty good compilers where I work. None for Mac, unfortunately.

    Anyway, I really appreciate all comments so far. Since I got the grant, my mind
    was over the PB 15" and that's what I am going to do. I just needed to hear
    more positive thoughts about it ;)


  15. FFTT macrumors 68030


    Apr 17, 2004
    A Stoned Throw From Ground Zero
    You already have an iMac, so having a fully compatible OSX laptop
    makes far more sense.

    Transferring data between machines will be totally seamless.

    You probably don't NEED the 15" model, so I would still consider the
    12" for it's portablilty benefits and price.

    You should probably get iWork to take advantage of Keynote for presentations.

    Even if your company is buying it for you, I would still buy any extra RAM
    3rd Party at Crucial, Datamem or OWC.

    Any PowerBook should hold you for at least 3 years and thus get you through the bumpy transition to Intel.

    Then, once the Intel based PowerBooks have proven themselves worthy,
    you'll have the benefits of booting to OSX, Linux or Vista on one machine.

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